What The Hell Is Wrong With People?

Zzzzz said:
I respect your personal opinion. However, if you take away guns it'll be knives. Take away knives, it'll be fists, poison, whatever. Even in a secure prison people kill people with whatever they can get their hands on. People are the issue. Not guns. There was a reason men sacrificed their lives for our rights. The US was set up to be governed by the people. We are free to decide for our selves and vote accordingly. If ever there comes a time when the government becomes so corrupt that the citizens are in harm's way, I would rather have armed citizens who are ready to put things back in order. I have nothing but respect for our military and police. There are corrupt people in every walk of life.
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Now I'm curious. If the amount of guns and the ease of acquiring them isn't at least part of the explanation, then what is? Statistics from 2007 say that USA has 3 times as many guns per capita as Sweden and 4 times as many murders. Are you guys just more evil? ;)

Now of course. I don't really believe that the guns is the whole truth but I'm curious to hear all of you guys' and girls' opinions.
 
Astral Traveler said:
Now I'm curious. If the amount of guns and the ease of acquiring them isn't at least part of the explanation, then what is? Statistics from 2007 say that USA has 3 times as many guns per capita as Sweden and 4 times as many murders. Are you guys just more evil? ;)

Now of course. I don't really believe that the guns is the whole truth but I'm curious to hear all of you guys' and girls' opinions.
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I think we are a more violent culture.
 
Astral Traveler said:
Now I'm curious. If the amount of guns and the ease of acquiring them isn't at least part of the explanation, then what is? Statistics from 2007 say that USA has 3 times as many guns per capita as Sweden and 4 times as many murders. Are you guys just more evil? ;)

Now of course. I don't really believe that the guns is the whole truth but I'm curious to hear all of you guys' and girls' opinions.
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Astral Traveler said:
Now I'm curious. If the amount of guns and the ease of acquiring them isn't at least part of the explanation, then what is? Statistics from 2007 say that USA has 3 times as many guns per capita as Sweden and 4 times as many murders. Are you guys just more evil? ;)

Now of course. I don't really believe that the guns is the whole truth but I'm curious to hear all of you guys' and girls' opinions.
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2021 population:
Sweden 10,149.393 million
USA 331.42 million
Per capita as far as gun violence- yes, I understand. There are a lot of other contributing factors to keep in mind. What are the differences between our countries as far as moral standards, family structure, liberties, etc. I have been in larger cities where the area was not ideal. As a female, knowing that I can defend myself if the need arises does grant me peace of mind. Yes, I feel safer knowing myself and those around me will not be helpless if attacked.
 
Astral Traveler said:
Do you ever feel unsafe? In your every day life I mean.
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I’m in Illinois, about 20 miles from the Indiana line, and it’s two different worlds where guns are concerned. In Illinois, you have to undergo a background check, pay $150, take a 3 day course and qualify on a shooting range. In Indiana, you can pay a flat fee and get a lifetime carry permit, and you have the freedom to either conceal or open carry. Oddly enough, since this area is pretty rural, I don’t feel unsafe anywhere I travel around here.
 
Zzzzz said:
2021 population:
Sweden 10,149.393 million
USA 331.42 million
Per capita as far as gun violence- yes, I understand. There are a lot of other contributing factors to keep in mind. What are the differences between our countries as far as moral standards, family structure, liberties, etc. I have been in larger cities where the area was not ideal. As a female, knowing that I can defend myself if the need arises does grant me peace of mind. Yes, I feel safer knowing myself and those around me will not be helpless if attacked.
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Are you saying that your moral standards are lower? I'm not sure I buy that... At least not in general.
 
Astral Traveler said:
Are you saying that your moral standards are lower? I'm not sure I buy that... At least not in general.
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I feel as though our society has deteriorated greatly over the past 10-15 years, and very much so morally. Our kids play violent, shooting games, like Grand Theft Auto, in which you gain points by indiscriminate killings. I think a good many have become desensitized to violence.

Many mental health experts say the lockdowns are also taking a toll on the mental health of many people, but I don't have anything that I could add to that...
 
Robert Herndon said:
I feel as though our society has deteriorated greatly over the past 10-15 years, and very much so morally. Our kids play violent, shooting games, like Grand Theft Auto, in which you gain points by indiscriminate killings. I think a good many have become desensitized to violence.

Many mental health experts say the lockdowns are also taking a toll on the mental health of many people, but I don't have anything that I could add to that...
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I too feel that things have deteriorated. I'm not sure video games are to blame any more than movies were to blame when I grew up. I think the cause runs much deeper than that. Violence in media could be a symptom rather than a disease.
 
A main concern I have is that several people on this forum live outside the US. I don't want any of you to fear violence in this country and refuse to travel here because of it. While there are several dangerous areas, in general the US is a relatively safe country to travel in. There are bad police, but there are a heck of a lot of great ones who go above and beyond their call of duty. It saddens me to see the riots and protests occurring. We are not all like that. It's a beautiful country and in general, Americans are friendly and welcoming to tourists. Like I told Ramo, you have friends here in the US. Look us up!
 
Astral Traveler said:
Do you ever feel unsafe? In your every day life I mean.
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YES. My neighbor's 2 doors down, robbed my house 2-3x. Once the 35+ year old son of the property owner did. He got a 10 year sentence with 3.5 years suspended. So a 6.5 year sentence which began in 2010-2011 if I remember right. BUT while he was in, around 2012 his then 15 year old son did the exact same thing except his " like father like son" drug problem led him to also steal prescriptions of mine and also my dog's meds. Due to minor status, he got a slap on the wrist for a felony crime and got to continue to reside at grandma's 2 doors down.

Flash forward a year or so to like 2014-2015, the dad gets early release from prison, and lucky me, takes up residence at mom's house 2 doors away. Both perps owed restitution and $25-$50 payments would trickle in by the state government issued checks until one day when I went home to load up some of my equipment to work on some gutters and roof issues at my fiancee's house. ALL of my long aluminum step ladders, and aluminum metal bending brake, and aluminum walk board were missing, but the thief courteously left me my Fiberglass extension ladder. Of course lead me to ask, hmmm, what did the restitution get paid back with, scrap $$$$ he got for my tools? I literally asked the dad's parole officer this.

Needless to say, my once comfortable and peaceful home became one I feared going home to for not only what else would be stolen, but worse, what possible violent retribution might come from the convict, thief and or connected persons to these lifetime criminals. Since 2010, I can never return to my house without anxiety even miles away before arriving; I also can ever be there without being on the ready to react in case a crime against me may occur.

Sadly I am not the only victim or potential one from these same people. A couple years ago, I got a phone call from the neighbor on the other side of us. He happened to look out in his front yard where his wife's car was parked to see a guy that he thought might have been one of the ( perp neighbor's) eyeing up or even having opened his wife's car door until he went out and confronted the guy.
The guy left and walked down past my place and possibly to the crime house, and yet when the Sheriff was called, the car neighbor basically felt as if the Sheriff's did not treat the incident seriously enough considering the history of the other neighbor I warned him about.

Flash forward to maybe February 2021. My long time neighbor next to the car neighbor stopped by when I was out in my yard. To quote him.
" I just wanted to come say hi and to tell you, you won't have to worry about your buddy anymore, in case you hadn't heard." My mind went first to the guy who bitched to the government about my cars, and next to the criminals. I replied, Kenny? and Neighbor said yup, OD'd a day or so prior.

I guess his Parole officer and monitoring his freedom in the real world did a bang up job of preventing criminal behavior this time huh.
Nothing to fear,........ just Heroin addict burglars.

Oh and in case one says, hey why not just move? Imagine this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I sort of did. 45 minutes away to my fiancee's house. YET Same scenario minus the robberies of us,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, YET. 55-60 year old brothers, living with a female signif other in the downstairs and upstairs units of their 75-80 some year old mother's house. Since I have been here, they have wrecked, re-wrecked, totaled, and totally gone through no fewer than 10 cars and trucks ( some theirs, some their poor mother's) and we even found a plastic bag next to our door step that I thought was just trash and turned out to be a bag of needles, a beer can bottom cut into a dish with what I can only assume was drug residue in it.

Pretty sure they go to Methadone clinics, and just about 2 weeks ago the yelling from 100+ feet across the road prompted me to look out our 2nd floor window to see the one son and 2 women going at each other with sticks or a cane, and throwing 8 inch rocks at one another from their garden. Soon after, the one woman I witnessed getting hit by a rock, picked one up and launched it at one of their cars while continuing on to swing a stick to hit both of their cars. I went out to our side door as I saw her head up our driveway. She was dripping blood down her face and neck from the head wound caused by the rock. She kept on going past me muttering something like she needed to find her purse or something. Thankfully 4-5 cop cars arrived soon after. Needless to say, she has an alcohol and drug problem, as do the others.

Yup, nothing to fear here........... Oh yeah, a return trip by the police a few days later to address a repeat of the nuts going at one another did not add any reassurance. All I heard was the cop saying. " if you do not obey the restraining order and have no interaction with the downstairs bunch, you will be arrested...."
 
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