Starting to get scared

Agree with Ses5. Press can manipulate reports for sure. One has to really read/listen between the lines to get the actual facts.

Case in point. Saw a chart posted yesterday comparing Italy to the US. Nothing wrong with the numbers. They are accurate. It’s showing day for day how the two countries compare. Pretty close up to about 5 days ago when cases exploded in the US. A lot of that due to testing. What the chart does not show is percentage cases to population. The US has about 5 1/2 times the population as Italy. Of course we have more total cases by numbers......but not by percentage cases to population. I’ve attached the chart if anyone really feels like doing the math. 1585151089007.jpeg
 
Be cautious, thorough, and be safe, all.
The best and worse of humanity comes out in times like these.
I am feeling tense about the future, mainly about work, and my wife is has some of the higher risk factors but is in good health in general.

So far I have not been laid off. We were furloughed yesterday but told to come in today.

So, not far from me here at work, some douchewagon coughed on someone intentionally and claimed they he was infected, after being asked to step back / follow the distancing guidelines - around food.

www.nj.com

‘Knucklehead’ who coughed on Wegmans worker charged with terroristic threats, N.J. Gov. says

Gov. Phil Murphy has vowed to aggressively pursue law enforcement efforts during the coronavirus outbreak.
www.nj.com www.nj.com
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
Anyhow, I am about to face a scenario bridge that I already crossed without much thought the other week when I picked up my tools and finished installing a part in that bath job. The wife mentioned how her recently widowed father in law chose not to have visits from her husband, son, or daughter to isolate himself. This hit home because her husband works at a hospital which makes him the closest target to date for the virus to travel on and possibly pass on to me. So, during that trip, he mentions the kitchen countertop demo work we had arranged for tomorrow to ready it for a company to install a new top on Friday. NOW the rock and hard place scenario. I either wish him luck and tell him he is on his own to do the demo while I adhere to the ISOLATION measures. Or I go in all wrapped up in a sealed up suit. use masks and gloves and just do the demo, pitch the protective clothes and leave with more money in my pocket.

Nothing like real life complications to muck up all attempts at a peaceful life.
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If you absolutely need to get out, here is what I would do:

1. Make sure everything you will take is clean and disinfected. Make sure there is no grease on anything, and use alcohol to clean any tools or other items you'll bring into the demo with you.
2. Make sure to clean your hands well with soap and water just before leaving to go to the demo. Take some hand-sanitizer or alcohol with you.
3. When you arrive DO NOT SHAKE ANYONE'S HAND! In these times, they should understand that.
4. Put as much distance as you can between you and other people. Again, they should understand.
5. Avoid touching your face.
6. After the demo, immediately clean your hands with the sanitizer after you're back in your vehicle.
7. When you get home, clean your tools or other items again and wash your hands.

The reason for all this hand washing is that if anyone who is infected coughs or sneezes, the virus can settle on objects. When you touch those objects, you can get the virus on your skin. You want to ensure you're keeping your hands cleansed.

Again, this is what I would do if it were me. This is still no guarantee you'll be entirely safe, but you're minimizing risk.
 
My daily routine...washing hands after visiting the restroom, before eating, after being in public places, pumping gas or visiting the ATM...has not changed at all.

This is SOP. Always has been.

All the hoarding of toilet paper and hand sanitizer makes me wonder if people were wiping their asses and practicing good hand hygiene before the outbreak???

I made a Home Depot stop Monday for a new toilet flapper. It was packed. There were at least 10-15 people huddled-up in that aisle with 2 employees helping them out. I would not go down that aisle, so i waited about 20-30 feet away.

I swear to you, the questions these people asked could be solved by anyone with 5th grade reading skills.

It took 40 minutes for the crowd to disburse. I waited another 5 minutes before i ventured down the aisle to get my item.

Other than my work in the studio, which is pretty much unchanged, i drive home and chill with my crew...
 
As I was reading these posts, I was struck by a couple of thoughts.

There are some very well thought out, and intelligent thoughts by our membership.

We have some very intelligent and empathetic people as members.

Too bad our cross section here isn't interested in being politicians, people that smart aren't attracted to that type of thing.

Keep up the posting people, it has made me extremely proud to associate with "friends" of your caliber.

And hold tight, "apes together strong"

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Yargnad said:
I believe we will have a case fatality rate of at least 5%, according to the math.
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Let's hope, or wish, or pray that this doesn't happen.

There are a lot of positive signs emerging in the last week on dealing with this pandemic. A vaccine won't be ready for a while, but it will be available much sooner than the original estimates. Original estimates was a year to a year and a half. Now I'm hearing 2 to 3 months... This coming from scientists and labs from around the world. But meanwhile while the world waits for a vaccine, the treatment of the infected and the infected who have become seriously ill is picking up fast. Like some in our industry and manufacturing converting to building ventilators, face shields, and other protective wear... with the help of the Defense Production Act (Let's hope this doesn't backfire on us!). Then there are multiple drugs that have shown promise that are in our stockpile and other parts of the world that will help the infected to fully recover. Private industries, here and around the world, are stepping up in very humane ways to help, too. Like Bayer, of Germany, donating to the U.S. government 3 million pills of the malaria drug Resochin (chloroquine phosphate). Though it's not officially proven, it looks promising.

Massive, and I mean massive, economic stimulus coming real soon too. It's definitely needed right now, but the downside is that our children's children will be footing the financial burden of this stimulus. But what are we to do? I say take the money and infuse the economy with it, otherwise there won't be much of our "children's children".
 
Just dont eat your aquarium chemicals. It is not the same chemical compound.
?? I really thought that was a fake story at first.

just as sodium chloride is not same as the rat poison sodium fluoroacetate.

I thought we were better prepared for "the next one" after H1N1?
Supposedly, we were better prepared for H1N1 in 2009, after the lessons learned from SARS in 2003 too.

Where the $%& are all the stockpiled masks, ventilators, gloves, etc.???

Gotta capture one and experiment on them to find a cure or until one starts producing the antibodies.
Oh wait, that was the Will Smith movie "I am Legend".
 
jtcnj said:
Just dont eat your aquarium chemicals. It is not the same chemical compound.
?? I really thought that was a fake story at first.

just as sodium chloride is not same as the rat poison sodium fluoroacetate.

I thought we were better prepared for "the next one" after H1N1?
Supposedly, we were better prepared for H1N1 in 2009, after the lessons learned from SARS in 2003 too.

Where the $%& are all the stockpiled masks, ventilators, gloves, etc.???

Gotta capture one and experiment on them to find a cure or until one starts producing the antibodies.
Oh wait, that was the Will Smith movie "I am Legend".
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With people like these, the chemical eaters, do we really deserve to survive?

Obviously joking, but still...….

I can hear the convo now " But we made speed from Sudafed, why can't we cure Coronavirus at the pet store?"

Makes me embarrassed to be from the same state.

Oh Dr. Darwin, patients in room #2......
 
Robert Herndon said:
I've never ever been really comfortable being around people. When you go through life feeling like that - and growing up alone - you become comfortable there.

I think its because it is always playing in the back of my mind to not say the wrong thing or to have the wrong facial expression or the absence of expression. It's just part of Aspberger's Syndrome.

My wife and i are the best of friends, we talk a lot and she understands me. I've come a long ways because up until a couple of years ago, i wouldn't go anywhere outside of a music event. Now, i actually go places with her and say a few wise/friendly things and then just listen...remembering to smile at the right times.

I dig solitude, Man...here's our little spot in Central America...i am most at peace in these settings...

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Where in Central America is this little hidewaway?
 
smitty_p said:
If you absolutely need to get out, here is what I would do:

1. Make sure everything you will take is clean and disinfected. Make sure there is no grease on anything, and use alcohol to clean any tools or other items you'll bring into the demo with you.
2. Make sure to clean your hands well with soap and water just before leaving to go to the demo. Take some hand-sanitizer or alcohol with you.
3. When you arrive DO NOT SHAKE ANYONE'S HAND! In these times, they should understand that.
4. Put as much distance as you can between you and other people. Again, they should understand.
5. Avoid touching your face.
6. After the demo, immediately clean your hands with the sanitizer after you're back in your vehicle.
7. When you get home, clean your tools or other items again and wash your hands.

The reason for all this hand washing is that if anyone who is infected coughs or sneezes, the virus can settle on objects. When you touch those objects, you can get the virus on your skin. You want to ensure you're keeping your hands cleansed.

Again, this is what I would do if it were me. This is still no guarantee you'll be entirely safe, but you're minimizing risk.
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great suggestions. I would add before you leave your car when back home wipe down the string wheel and any controls you have touched with some kind of sanitizing cloth. I use Lysol disinfecting wipes.
 
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