Some unhappy Gibson Owners

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Yes it's interesting how options such as scale length are so restricted with lefty guitars.

Even Schecter only has the one model at the moment that is 24.75", and it's a stupid A7X signature thing.

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I really like mine. I do have a few. It's very rare that I don't play a guitar before buying one, but this last one was a rare exception. Sell off my Gibsons? No, why should I?

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I've got a few non-Gibsons also. I'm happy with them all. They do what I need them to do. Play nice and make beautiful music is all I ask. Unless, I buy a new guitar. Then I'm a bit fussier.
 
gball said:
Guy 3: Speak for yourself, wizard, opinions are like a$$holes after all. And by the way why not take a look at the current catalog, which addresses every one of your whiny complaints.
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Alright, I watched #3. I remember seeing it when it was new...September 2018(over a year ago). It seems to be the same type of rant that gets leveled at Fender constantly...Fender has been changing model names for years to obfuscate what is exactly what in their lineup. I can’t/won’t bother to keep up with that sh1t$torm. Fender makes Gibson look inept in that arena. The semantics of a model designation are part of business. I take it as the Gibson Traditional line is what a good number of potential customers really wanted from Henry’s version of Gibson. It wasn’t always available, and now it is...but under the new designation...because they want to offer something other than the same old 50-60 year old tech as their “Standard”. That is their prerogative.

Cadorman said:
We need something new to pick on.
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Yes. Yes we do.
I’m in a similar mindset to yours, I think... I have bought 3 brand new Gibsons...2 were store purchases, where I had the opportunity to try them first...1 was an online purchase from a chain. I stipulated that they not break the factory seal on the box, and they honored that.
The three were purchased in 2006, 2011, and 2012. They had zero problems. I still have them all.
Two are completely unmodded...one has been altered with a specific goal in mind.
I am still enjoying all three.

BFT Gibson said:
Pick on me...lol..i can take it. been a war this year...lawyers...doctors..the public being hostile...very rarely does a day go by when the hood isn't ugly with us....you should hear the background...how do people live? ...does every 3rd word have to be an F bomb..,,hire us & then your not there...don't even know your address or make and model of car...my new way to categorize things..how much trash is in the street in front of your house, determines the severity of the danger..3 guns on us this year again...
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You are due for some good Karma!
 
gball said:
My issue is that he wants to speak for the Gibson-buying public as a whole. I'm partly biased in that I've seen a bunch of this guys videos and he always comes across as a smug a-hole who thinks he knows how everything should be for everyone.

At the time he made this, early in the model year, you could choose the Standard, which was a modern interpretation or the Traditional which was a more classic take. His semantic BS all comes down to how he personally thought the company should use the name(s) of their own products. They were building what he wanted, but he didn't like the name. Boo-hoo.

In the interim, they've done precisely what he recommends with the Standards in the Original collection, which kind of blows the "Gibson doesn't listen to its customers" theory out of the water.

These cats that go on YouTube to vent their own personal issues need to find another hobby.
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Gotcha G, thanks for the explanation.
 
Cadorman said:
You are absolutely correct, but Gibson really gets the crap handed to them on the internet in general. As much as everyone says they suck I can't believe that I have never had a problem with one in 35 years.
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As they most certainly should. Gibson survives on the folklore of their past.

I bought 5 brand new Gibson's between 2003 and 2018. Four had major issues that would require neck reset, fretboard planing and plugging/re-drilling bridge posts to salvage.

My letter to Gibson's Nicholas.Chemsak@gibson.com in 2017 mentioned exactly the same issues that were addressed with Gibson in 2003. - and nothing changed.

Every Gibson enthusiast I encountered chastised me for 'making Gibson look bad,' and several openly denied that my experience was even possible.

Interestingly, I found 7 You Tube videos that described my experience in exacting detail, proving my experience was not only plausible, but commonplace.

I encountered humps in the fretboard on a 2016 Les Paul 50's Tribute, so large that the factory had set the 12th fret action to over .125" to make it playable.

Incorrect neck angle on a 2016 SG so steep that the tailpiece required 1/4" of Faber shims to keep the strings from contacting (cutting grooves in) the bridge.

A twisted neck - halfway down the fretboard on a 2016 Les Paul Studio that was visible to the naked eye and resulted in 12th fret action set at .090" by Gibson

In general, poor quality finish work, inaccurate intonation and bridge placement, loose bridge posts held in with only glue and gaps between neck and body that you could stand a playing card in.

Buzzing electronics that would pick up and transmit a local FM radio Station (KFROG) and two way radio communication from the nearby state university.

The most bizarre point of all was the legions of 'Gibson Faithful' who openly justified anything that Gibson produced because - after all - it was a Gibson.

I got rid of all of them and I would never - ever - purchase another Gibson product - new or vintage. As such, I rarely post my experiences because they are so unpopular, but it was certainly both an eye opener and a turning point for me in my musical journey....
 
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Cadorman said:
I don't like 25.5 inch scales. Will never own another guitar with one.
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I felt very much that way after playing only Les Paul's for about a year. Keep in mind that I work with a guitar everyday, so in a year, I wore the frets out on a 2016 Les Paul 50's Tribute. There are still many things that I like - and prefer - about a 24.75" scale guitar, but after suffering a lot of disappointment with my 24.75" guitars - nothing at all that had to do with the scale length - I decided to switch to a better, more accurately made guitar and just accept the 25.5" scale as something I would need to get used too.
 
Robert Herndon said:
As they most certainly should. Gibson survives on the folklore of their past.

I bought 5 brand new Gibson's between 2003 and 2018. Four had major issues that would require neck reset, fretboard planing and plugging/re-drilling bridge posts to salvage.

My letter to Gibson's Nicholas.Chemsak@gibson.com in 2017 mentioned exactly the same issues that were addressed with Gibson in 2003. - and nothing changed.

Every Gibson enthusiast I encountered chastised me for 'making Gibson look bad,' and several openly denied that my experience was even possible.

Interestingly, I found 7 You Tube videos that described my experience in exacting detail, proving my experience was not only plausible, but commonplace.

I encountered humps in the fretboard on a 2016 Les Paul 50's Tribute, so large that the factory had set the 12th fret action to over .125" to make it playable.

Incorrect neck angle on a 2016 SG so steep that the tailpiece required 1/4" of Faber shims to keep the strings from contacting (cutting grooves in) the bridge.

A twisted neck - halfway down the fretboard on a 2016 Les Paul Studio that was visible to the naked eye and resulted in 12th fret action set at .090" by Gibson

In general, poor quality finish work, inaccurate intonation and bridge placement, loose bridge posts held in with only glue and gaps between neck and body that you could stand a playing card in.

Buzzing electronics that would pick up and transmit a local FM radio Station (KFROG) and two way radio communication from the nearby state university.

The most bizarre point of all was the legions of 'Gibson Faithful' who openly justified anything that Gibson produced because - after all - it was a Gibson.

I got rid of all of them and I would never - ever - purchase another Gibson product - new or vintage.
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I respect your position and feel for your issues. I just haven't had them. I have zero fret buzz and the action is where I want it on all of mine. Now, I may not be that picky and you may not like how my guitars are set up. They work for me. Go get some preamp tubes before Mitch finds a home for all of them.
 
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