To Scream or Not To Scream:

This is an interesting read.
Good luck with sorting this @Robert Herndon.

It would seem that if you hear that amp making the kind of sounds you want from it, you should be able to as well.
But for me,most of the pedal reviews on Youtube sound better than I can do with them, since so much else is part of the tone equation.

"This is the mystery of the quotient, quotient" , maybe?

You guys know a lot more than me, but I'll throw in $0.02.
The way I understand some of this - similar to what has been stated - is that many / most / (all?) of these OD pedals by their nature add shape / EQ the input signal.

TS have a mid hump and trim some low end.
RAT seems to be an exaggerated version of the TS; cuts out a lot of the bass signal, with lots more gain. The gain has a natural compression that trims some treble as well.
 
jtcnj said:
This is an interesting read.
Good luck with sorting this @Robert Herndon.

It would seem that if you hear that amp making the kind of sounds you want from it, you should be able to as well.
But for me,most of the pedal reviews on Youtube sound better than I can do with them, since so much else is part of the tone equation.

"This is the mystery of the quotient, quotient" , maybe?

You guys know a lot more than me, but I'll throw in $0.02.
The way I understand some of this - similar to what has been stated - is that many / most / (all?) of these OD pedals by their nature add shape / EQ the input signal.

TS have a mid hump and trim some low end.
RAT seems to be an exaggerated version of the TS; cuts out a lot of the bass signal, with lots more gain. The gain has a natural compression that trims some treble as well.
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With a RAT as you mentioned:

 
Robert Herndon said:
Might have to do the same. I can't see just giving this away out of frustration, or covering it and using it as a coffee table.
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One bit of good news: the current "reissue" TS-9's sound exactly the same as the originals.

I bought my first one in 1982, right after the 9-series was released and that's the one I used for the next decade until the switch died. At that point I had other dirt so I didn't replace it. I bought one of the reissues a couple of years ago and it sounds identical. Even still made in Japan.

It might be the best deal on the market for only $99.
 
gball said:
One bit of good news: the current "reissue" TS-9's sound exactly the same as the originals.

I bought my first one in 1982, right after the 9-series was released and that's the one I used for the next decade until the switch died. At that point I had other dirt so I didn't replace it. I bought one of the reissues a couple of years ago and it sounds identical. Even still made in Japan.

It might be the best deal on the market for only $99.
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That's certainly cheap....

Maybe I need to get past my aversion to boost pedals???
 
If I picked up a TS9, where should it go in conjunction with the CS-3 and GE-7???

Front of amp before, or after???
 
Dave Sloven said:
I haven't used this amp but I would say try using the red channel on a lower pre-gain setting and putting an MXR M77 in front of it; that pedal gives you the capacity to boost volume, add overdrive, bump the mids, and cut or boost bass using its various controls. It is basically a modified Boss SD-1. Run it with the volume right up and the drive right down, adjust the 100Hz bass cut/boost as needed, and try clicking the 'bump' switch in and out. It should enable a tighter sound somehow. The best way to get rid of mush on a high gain channel is to drop the gain on the amp a bit and boost it into the amp
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This is along the lines of what I was thinking with either the Metal Zone I have with tons of EQ adjustments or other pedals like the M77 or other OD/Dirt pedals.
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
Fine tune his sound curve? Boost some frequencies and squash/ cut out others?
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That' pretty much it to me. The amps onboard tone controls are really pretty limited. Using a GEQ in the loop just provides a whole other level of control.

It's like the built-in EQ in my Mark 5 - the rotary preamp controls do minimal tone shaping, and for the most part I just have them all at 12 o'clock and let the GEQ do the heavy lifting. The most important knob in the preamp is the gain. Next most important is the presence.
 
Just like in one of those videos that was posted: The amp's Ultra gain set halfway. Use the TS pedal at the front of the amp with the pedal's gain at zero. Set the pedal's Level till you hear it boosting the amps output. Adjust the pedal's Tone to taste.

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syscokid said:
Just like in one of those videos that was posted: The amp's Ultra gain set halfway. Use the TS pedal at the front of the amp with the pedal's gain at zero. Set the pedal's Level till you hear it boosting the amps output. Adjust the pedal's Tone to taste.

Best bang for the buck from many reviews with quality and performance in mind:
Electro-Harmonix East River Drive... 》》》$68!!!!!

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EastRiverOD--electro-harmonix-east-river-drive-classic-overdrive-pedal?mrkgcl=28&mrkgadid=3331288928&rkg_id=0&product_id=EastRiverOD&campaigntype=shopping&campaign=aaShopping - Core - Guitars - No Token&adgroup=Guitars - Guitar Pedals & Effects&placement=google&adpos=1o1&creative=332063179851&device=m&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5J_mBRDVARIsAGqGLZCFhX7FHoQS0LZHhDcCj-RTw6ycFhHFaXpeFiGGxWKmpUa9DynnNKcaAkgFEALw_wcB
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Gotta check that out...similar circuitry to TS9???
 
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