Quick question....what you guys think about a relic'd nickel PAF in the SG????
To Relic, Or Not To Relic???
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The only way I think that makes sense is if you already have an old guitar and you want to replace the pickups, but you want them to look consistent with the rest of the guitar. I have a friend with a '72 Les Paul Custom. He's put a lot of honest wear on that guitar over many years, along with the wear from the previous owner.
He replaced his pickups just a few years back with a set that was pre-aged (I don't think the original p'ups were in the guitar when he bought it. He likes old pickups way too much to pull them out of an old guitar). Anyway, in his guitar, they look the part. Brand new, shiny covers would have looked a little odd.
OP
Makes sense.....I wanted some input on who it might look. Mine is too clean to benefit from aged pickups...
Yeah. I think your SG looks fine the way it is.
But...thinking of my friend in my earlier post...I just remembered...the pickups that were in his Les Paul absolutely weren't the originals. They were uncovered Seymour Duncan '59s. He gave them to me when he replaced them with his current pickups with the aged covers. I put the '59s in my Washburn.
Ah well, anyway. I do think aged pickups have their place: in an old guitar!
RVA
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Just to be clear, if a set of pups I had available sounded right, I would put clean pups in an old guitar and weathered pups ina new guitar. It is just, given the choice, I would avoid intentionally damaged merchandise
OP
A guitar chum offered me a set of relic'd Toneriders. But, I never take things that I am not going to use...
RVA
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Understood. I just mean that I would not let the fact that pus are relic's, or minor cosmetic issues such as if they were truly worn, get in the way of installing the right pups for the right ax. If I was given an option, I would always choose non relec'd, even if the guitar was worn or relic'd
OP
eSGEe
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What do the pickups SOUND like???? have you TRIED them in the guitar--- ?!?!?!?!?!?!
Frankly unless your a cork sniffer who sets a guitar on a mantle under glass and only LOOKS at it---and brags to your friends you have a "pristine" 59 blah blah blah---- who cares?
its YOUR guitar--- you have altered it already --- its not "pristine" its not "factory stock" ----if you like it and it sounds good........who cares? ---
No offense mate---- but do you think THIS GUY
asked a "forum" if he should rip out MOST of the pups in the guitar???? DO you think he questioned the wiring intricacies ? Does he seem to care if the LONG THROW between the tailpiece and bridge MIGHT "affect" his tone WTF even IS THAT TAILPIECE!!!!!????????????????
DO YOU NEED 6 KNOBS and a switch to work 1 dang bridge pup?!?!?!?!?!?!
uhm .......................no..........dude just no--
the GUITAR IS THE TOOL-----not the talent! --- do any of you join a forum to discuss which stanley hammer is best for the particular job you are undertaking this weekend????? Really? do you>? if you do--- you might want to analyze the use of your time--- and your decision making skills----
get the pups try them if you like them WONDERFREAKINGFULL if you dont rip the damn things out (send them to me
) and try something ELSE ------
GEESH!
Frankly unless your a cork sniffer who sets a guitar on a mantle under glass and only LOOKS at it---and brags to your friends you have a "pristine" 59 blah blah blah---- who cares?
its YOUR guitar--- you have altered it already --- its not "pristine" its not "factory stock" ----if you like it and it sounds good........who cares? ---
No offense mate---- but do you think THIS GUY
asked a "forum" if he should rip out MOST of the pups in the guitar???? DO you think he questioned the wiring intricacies ? Does he seem to care if the LONG THROW between the tailpiece and bridge MIGHT "affect" his tone WTF even IS THAT TAILPIECE!!!!!????????????????
DO YOU NEED 6 KNOBS and a switch to work 1 dang bridge pup?!?!?!?!?!?!
uhm .......................no..........dude just no--
the GUITAR IS THE TOOL-----not the talent! --- do any of you join a forum to discuss which stanley hammer is best for the particular job you are undertaking this weekend????? Really? do you>? if you do--- you might want to analyze the use of your time--- and your decision making skills----
get the pups try them if you like them WONDERFREAKINGFULL if you dont rip the damn things out (send them to me
) and try something ELSE ------GEESH!
OP
What do the pickups SOUND like???? have you TRIED them in the guitar--- ?!?!?!?!?!?!
Frankly unless your a cork sniffer who sets a guitar on a mantle under glass and only LOOKS at it---and brags to your friends you have a "pristine" 59 blah blah blah---- who cares?
its YOUR guitar--- you have altered it already --- its not "pristine" its not "factory stock" ----if you like it and it sounds good........who cares? ---
No offense mate---- but do you think THIS GUY
asked a "forum" if he should rip out MOST of the pups in the guitar???? DO you think he questioned the wiring intricacies ? Does he seem to care if the LONG THROW between the tailpiece and bridge MIGHT "affect" his tone WTF even IS THAT TAILPIECE!!!!!????????????????
DO YOU NEED 6 KNOBS and a switch to work 1 dang bridge pup?!?!?!?!?!?!
uhm .......................no..........dude just no--
the GUITAR IS THE TOOL-----not the talent! --- do any of you join a forum to discuss which stanley hammer is best for the particular job you are undertaking this weekend????? Really? do you>? if you do--- you might want to analyze the use of your time--- and your decision making skills----
get the pups try them if you like them WONDERFREAKINGFULL if you dont rip the damn things out (send them to me
GEESH!
On point as always!!!!
You know, I get sidetracks, Bro, so I often ask questions to evaluate what I am thinking to see if it's worth messing with....
OP
Actually, I am constantly analyzing everything...and the hammer with the cross-hatched face is the one I prefer......
OP
Nope. It was just something me and another guy were chatting about and he offered me a set....but since I got 6 pickups coming, and a closet full of pickups, pickguards, necks, completed prototype guitars and just about everything else you can imagine already on had, I decided to chill....
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
and I thought I WAS NUTZ!
say CHief Whacka Mole--- see this:
FYI I have straightened the shelves since this pic
ANYWHOO----------------------- I DID THIS:
I had NO IDEA----
A. how it would sound
B. if it would work
C. why I use letters not numbers
D. how big a P.I.A> fitting it (a covered pup) in the damn hole from and uncovered pup ---would be
BUT BY GAWD I did it......for 38.00 BUCKAROONIES......not like I freed the known world --- but I did it--- and ---after about 3.8 seconds I knew --- I LIKED IT!
-----now had it sounds like DOOKIE-- it would have come back out and been thrown in a drawer to be donated to OWegis house of guitar parts and drum stick donatorium-- BUT its a KEEPER --- so the OLD pup is now in a pile of stuff to give to Owegi to turn into a MEGA 10000 watt Super computer or amp or .......a pari of scissors I dont know the mans skill set --- but he can make some stuff for SURE!
SO
they are GFS pups --- a SET are like less than dinner for you and the wife at Outback for pete sake..............caution to the WIND -- damn the torpedos --- dont eat yellow snow!
dude have ya order the friggin pickups --- Im not doing this for my health ya know.........................
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
put the closet in a box and ship to ..............................
RVA
Ambassador
Yikes. Have you ever tried decaf?What do the pickups SOUND like???? have you TRIED them in the guitar--- ?!?!?!?!?!?!
Frankly unless your a cork sniffer who sets a guitar on a mantle under glass and only LOOKS at it---and brags to your friends you have a "pristine" 59 blah blah blah---- who cares?
its YOUR guitar--- you have altered it already --- its not "pristine" its not "factory stock" ----if you like it and it sounds good........who cares? ---
No offense mate---- but do you think THIS GUY
asked a "forum" if he should rip out MOST of the pups in the guitar???? DO you think he questioned the wiring intricacies ? Does he seem to care if the LONG THROW between the tailpiece and bridge MIGHT "affect" his tone WTF even IS THAT TAILPIECE!!!!!????????????????
DO YOU NEED 6 KNOBS and a switch to work 1 dang bridge pup?!?!?!?!?!?!
uhm .......................no..........dude just no--
the GUITAR IS THE TOOL-----not the talent! --- do any of you join a forum to discuss which stanley hammer is best for the particular job you are undertaking this weekend????? Really? do you>? if you do--- you might want to analyze the use of your time--- and your decision making skills----
get the pups try them if you like them WONDERFREAKINGFULL if you dont rip the damn things out (send them to me
GEESH!
I think Malcolm thought a lot about his tone. I also think the "rugged" look of his guitar may have been intentional. It is not like he was poor or did not have time to think about it. This fella had road techs! Anyway, I have nothing good to say about that guitar until I can see whether the pups are adjustable or not.
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RVA
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It is working for you, so keep it up.
OP
and I thought I WAS NUTZ!
say CHief Whacka Mole--- see this:
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FYI I have straightened the shelves since this pic
ANYWHOO----------------------- I DID THIS:
View attachment 9239
I had NO IDEA----
A. how it would sound
B. if it would work
C. why I use letters not numbers
D. how big a P.I.A> fitting it (a covered pup) in the damn hole from and uncovered pup ---would be
BUT BY GAWD I did it......for 38.00 BUCKAROONIES......not like I freed the known world --- but I did it--- and ---after about 3.8 seconds I knew --- I LIKED IT!
-----now had it sounds like DOOKIE-- it would have come back out and been thrown in a draw ro be donated to OWegis house of gutiar parts and drum stick donatorium-- BUT its a KEEPER --- so the OLD pup is now in a pile of stuff to give to Owegi to turn into a MEGA 10000 watt Super computer or amp or .......a pari of scissors I dont know the mans skill set --- but he can make some stuff for SURE!
SO
they are GFS pups --- a SET are like less than dinner for you and the wife at Outback for pete sake..............caution to the WIND -- damn the torpedos --- dont eat yellow snow!
dude have ya order the friggin pickups --- Im not doing this for my health ya know.........................
NICE!!!!
I want to tell you that I truly, most sincerely value your input, my friend. I guess I became so powerfully distracted by the entire Von Herndon thing that I spent more time fiddling with my guitars than actually playing them, so I am trying to be less impulsive and pay more attention to what makes sense. Out of 22 Von Herndon's produced, I am down to just three and all those already have a home, so to speak, and after the double neck (which has been 6 months in the planning stages) I am going to try really hard to just play, take lessons and leave the screws alone....