Practice Amps?

gball said:
For sure! I mean, I have friends who have switched over to modeling wholesale. They couldn’t be happier.
My one bud has a full Kemper rig that he loves. Problem is, it sits in a room right next to a JVM, so its fraudulence is easily revealed (so he won’t gig with it). I just went full circle after a decade of searching for a low-volume, portable solution, and realized only a tube amp with a small pedalboard will get me where I want to go sonically.
Based on what I have experienced over the last 20 years with modelers I’d say we’re another 10 away from them genuinely matching the tone of a tube amp. I think that’s why they are all packed with so many effects actually - the makers are hoping we won’t notice that the core amp sound is pretty meh if there’s enough chorus and delay on top of it.
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I too have taken every opportunity to try modeling amps without purchasing one. I do not find their tones to be authentic. They sound good in a studio or home environment, but everytime I have heard one live, they don't cut through the mix. They are not for me.
 
BFT Gibson said:
All the gear i get, no matter what..the end game is live band use. It must. This music thing in life i have experienced, is progressive since day 1 when buying the first guitar guitar..in my case..how do we get to the studio..then the stage.. its nice there is so many options available no matter ya music situation is..make music..lots of it
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I try not to change my gear. I am a minimalist. The less I have to worry about the better...
 
gball said:
Just a friendly reminder that this thread got started because I’ve tried a whole bunch of modeling amps and they all suck at sounding like what they are trying to sound like. They are so uninspiring to play that I have to talk myself into actually turning them on (would rather play unplugged). We now return to our normal programming;).
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well.....here is a reminder about a GREAT practice amp (typically overlooked) a reminder ---about a FEATURE PACKED American Based mfct. ----class A --A/B TUBE amp--- that does SOO MUCH for the $ its incredible -- and -- it can be purchased for UNDER 300.00 used all day long ..............................................many online right now fer sales
a practice---to D.I. recording -- to stage amp all in one.................what more does one need Good Sir KA-nigget ?

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2 footswitches
send and return effects loop
USB out
XLR out.......
16-8-4 ohm functions
20 w 5 w 1 watt function............
built in LOAD BOX.......

come on find me an amp--- ANY AMP with THIS MANY features.................At ANY prices-------
now find me one under 300.00

its o.k. Ill wait ------ get back to me in a year or 3
;)
 
Astral Traveler said:
I think this is part of the problem. Manufacturers claim that thier modeling amps sound like "insert famous tube amp". They'd be better off making them sound the best they can without trying to emulate something else, IMO.
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Right on, man.
That's one reason why I like the Katana. Has different models but I have no idea what amps they emulate and don't care. They sound pretty good, that's what matters.
 
Jethro Rocker said:
Right on, man.
That's one reason why I like the Katana. Has different models but I have no idea what amps they emulate and don't care. They sound pretty good, that's what matters.
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I had a Katana, among many others. I actually went on and on about what a great practice amp it was. Until I tried to get a decent mid-gain tone out of it: it was killer in the "brown" channel for real high-gain stuff but I was never able to get a usable low- or mid-gain sound without running it real clean with a dirt box in front of it. The effects did sound good though.
 
eSGEe said:
well.....here is a reminder about a GREAT practice amp (typically overlooked) a reminder ---about a FEATURE PACKED American Based mfct. ----class A --A/B TUBE amp--- that does SOO MUCH for the $ its incredible -- and -- it can be purchased for UNDER 300.00 used all day long ..............................................many online right now fer sales
a practice---to D.I. recording -- to stage amp all in one.................what more does one need Good Sir KA-nigget ?

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When i close my eyes, that sounds like my ORANGE..:D
 
but cant an modeling amp thats emulating a (vox-Marshall-Mesa) er dumble (though it may not SOUND like a dumble ---who even knows WTF one sounds like--) but still sounds "good" making a "sound" that isnt REALLY a dumble....sound per say......but sounds "good" ....in essence be a "good" amp ????? :eek: ??

I have 3 marshalls they all sound like marshalls but sound DIFFERENTLY like Marshalls
I have a fender that is made to SOUND like a Marshall and it does sounds MORE Marshall than 2 of my Marshalls..........:eek:.....do they all sound bad? or Good?
Does it really matter ? ---does anyone REALLY KNOW what time it is????

will any of you actually hear (without youtube/google/cellphone compression and distortion) how my little Marshall posse REALLY sound? ---er maybe Dave or Kevin ....but likely --- no
so again what does it matter? (I like them)

Norm LOVES his 35 Orange (had a couple they are good) -- others dislike this ---- what does it matter--
"E" man loves his MUstang (also a very tasty critter---the amp not @Ebidis )
others love there WALL OF MARSHALLS--giant KUSTOM Tuck N Rolls-- ORANGE TUBE HEADS--- etc etc
or Z lunchbox.........
Roland MicroCube......
online SOFTWARE........

what was the squareroot of a laden swallow ? er the mass of the ass vs the sum of the ..................PIZZA? we have PIZZA?
oh right
MARSHALLS RULE :dood:all else sucks........except peavey.......and Orange......oh and vox, and -diesel....and um-- is a Kemper really an amp-??- or its it a computer processor?
modeling? processing? copying? mimicry? does BOSS use modeling or processing?

how true are those tones really? got a dumble in the room? w/ a 56 cabinet?
----- come on........

no they are still digitally "funked" with copies --- nope modeling is modeling -- and modeling is like ah HARD--- and stuff..............

see




oh ....wait .........where is the line?
 
gball said:
I had a Katana, among many others. I actually went on and on about what a great practice amp it was. Until I tried to get a decent mid-gain tone out of it: it was killer in the "brown" channel for real high-gain stuff but I was never able to get a usable low- or mid-gain sound without running it real clean with a dirt box in front of it. The effects did sound good though.
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I use the crunch mode with a bit lower gain. I rarely go for low gain tones though.
 
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