Discussion: Recording, DAWs, and Mixing

ibmorjamn said:
It's about time you said what you mean . Lol
That is helpful. The thing about analog is if you don't like it you can sell with digital not so much. There is a huge used analog market. I never knew so much was out there besides all the new stuff.
Many new ones are upgraded or latest and greatest.
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Had nothing to do with plugins. Lol.

Say you got the $19,999 hardware for $300. Then there would be no concern or worry if you "did alright". You'd be "good" for any case and could skip unnecessary comparing.

So in your case, getting SSL alone should leave you to be able to rest assured.
 
TVvoodoo said:
I feel so ignorant on this topic... I feel like I should also be salivating over this stuff you fellas are showing
but can't. My old ears probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference, between the $199 vs the $19,999
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ibmorjamn said:
I am sort of with you there.
It's cool to have the latest wizardry but to gauge the difference and value or bang per buck is tricky for someone like myself. It's like swimming, just jump in the deep end, difference is in the pool water you can see the bottom. With this stuff it's deeper than the ocean.
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@TVvoodoo and @ibmorjamn …Did you like the sound quality of my Workin’ Man recording? Was there reasonably good clarity, and definition? A bit of a sense of depth to the guitar? I might have been able to come close to the sound I got by using my stock mixer preamps and some other plugins, but it was a lot easier using a couple of really nice preamps and compressors running into my interface. Plus, I didn’t have to do much to it afterwards…just eq the mud below 80Hz, and level it out against a gentle limiter for final volume level. I do not advocate mixing into a limiter. I believe in mixing without one, and getting where you want the mix to be before adding a limiter to the main bus for mixdown.
TVvoodoo said:
I don't even know what these are? Pre-amps... for like microphones?
I have that built into my old mixer. Must be poop tho LOL!
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These are all kinds of typical rackmount things(preamps, compressors, equalizers, effects, etc), just packaged in a different rack mounting format. The 500 series rack format typically has a “rack” that also handles power distribution, and input/output connections. The components(preamps compressors etc) are sold without power supplies and most of the common input and output connections in typical form. Instead, they fit into the 500 racks(aka “lunchbox” racks) like a soundcard or video card in an old computer tower…blade connectors etc.
So, in these lunchbox racks, one can gather components to chain together to make a channel strip(like a mixer channel), or whatever they want. There’s a lot available, from cheap to big$$, and the components are usually a bit less expensive due to the connectivity of the lunchbox rack….but the racks are more expensive. Six of one….
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ibmorjamn said:
Oh no recording gear gas.
Damn it google just hooked me. I could easily dump $1k.
SSL just came out with a 6 channel strip. Well made and less than their high end stuff. Thomann is listed as the only vendor. $315, once you add shipping it's probably not as attractive.

gearandsound.com

Review: SSL SiX CH channel strip - Gear and Sound

The SSL SiX CH is a full featured 500-series channel strip and mic preamp with lots of gain, EQ- and compressor-section and Hi-Z input
gearandsound.com gearandsound.com
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I can almost get addicted to the studio gear as much as amps & guitars. Got so lucky my Neve style Gap73 & JoeMeek became my sound & made it easy & on the cheap in the long run. Same with MXL DX2 & MXL Ribbon Mics. Got so good at using them & the clarity of capture is exactly whats in the room. Some of the most fun ever had musically was that first few months of diving in. It has saved me $1,000's from going to the studio
 
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Thatbastarddon said:
@TVvoodoo and @ibmorjamn …Did you like the sound quality of my Workin’ Man recording? Was there reasonably good clarity, and definition? A bit of a sense of depth to the guitar? I might have been able to come close to the sound I got by using my stock mixer preamps and some other plugins, but it was a lot easier using a couple of really nice preamps and compressors running into my interface. Plus, I didn’t have to do much to it afterwards…just eq the mud below 80Hz, and level it out against a gentle limiter for final volume level. I do not advocate mixing into a limiter. I believe in mixing without one, and getting where you want the mix to be before adding a limiter to the main bus for mixdown.

These are all kinds of typical rackmount things(preamps, compressors, equalizers, effects, etc), just packaged in a different rack mounting format. The 500 series rack format typically has a “rack” that also handles power distribution, and input/output connections. The components(preamps compressors etc) are sold without power supplies and most of the common input and output connections in typical form. Instead, they fit into the 500 racks(aka “lunchbox” racks) like a soundcard or video card in an old computer tower…blade connectors etc.
So, in these lunchbox racks, one can gather components to chain together to make a channel strip(like a mixer channel), or whatever they want. There’s a lot available, from cheap to big$$, and the components are usually a bit less expensive due to the connectivity of the lunchbox rack….but the racks are more expensive. Six of one….
:cheers:
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"Did you like the sound quality of my Workin’ Man recording? "
I have to listen in my headphones, I have failed to get busy listening.
From recall just with the phone speaker the sound is good. I know from your previous recordings you have done your home work with your gear.
 
Well…..

I knew this recording thing would be bad with this guy and I was right ( as always) lol


Long story short me and other guitarist fired this so called sound engineer ( more like a toilet brush engineer) …. He was so rude from get go….. i didnt say much too him out of my friends respect who is friend with him….


But i can go nasty real fast and ugly side of me its not nice!!!!!

Anyway… i remained calm and requested all files so we can do mix elsewhere….


He made us sound real bad… there was lots of unwanted noises… back up vocals louder than main… harmonies lost…. Bass half in right side of speaker half gets lost half way…. In short amateur guy would have done the better job….. for every feedback he wanted more money and i tolled him he aint getting it and he can su*** his mom….

So… now I have to find new engineer who will do the mix for us … as Im not in hell realising this shyte….


Im going to re track my guitars as they are very quite in wave form….

Will update when I have more info.

Saga continues….
 
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ibmorjamn said:
"Did you like the sound quality of my Workin’ Man recording? "
I have to listen in my headphones, I have failed to get busy listening.
From recall just with the phone speaker the sound is good. I know from your previous recordings you have done your home work with your gear.
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Yes , I just played through my headphones.
 
I have a question.

Is there a way to save FX settings in Reaper?
For example, if I like the EQ and compression settings for an instrument, then I could bring it up anytime I want. Instead of reinventing the wheel every time.
 
LiveeviL2000 said:
I have a question.

Is there a way to save FX settings in Reaper?
For example, if I like the EQ and compression settings for an instrument, then I could bring it up anytime I want. Instead of reinventing the wheel every time.
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Yes. There is a way to save a “Preset” of plugins. IIRC….There’s a “+“ beside the preset drop-down bar, at the top of the effects window…I haven’t had my coffee yet though.
 
LiveeviL2000 said:
I have a question.

Is there a way to save FX settings in Reaper?
For example, if I like the EQ and compression settings for an instrument, then I could bring it up anytime I want. Instead of reinventing the wheel every time.
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@Sapient is the Reaper guru, maybe others know.
Reaper is very powerful but my other DAW Mixcraft is easier. Editing the tracks is simpler and rendering.
 
@LiveeviL2000 many recordists, once the get something they really like will save a song "soundspace" as a project template with all the named trax FX on the tracks etc... Then, when you start a new project a lot of the work is already done... I think it runs the risk of everything you do sounding similar but I also see the logic... a lot of the twiddling can be repetitve
 
TVvoodoo said:
@LiveeviL2000 many recordists, once the get something they really like will save a song "soundspace" as a project template with all the named trax FX on the tracks etc... Then, when you start a new project a lot of the work is already done... I think it runs the risk of everything you do sounding similar but I also see the logic... a lot of the twiddling can be repetitve
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I used project templates a lot. Not so much for solo stuff, but when recording bands(mine or others) I would use templates…much, much easier. Plus…just because one may start with a template, doesn’t mean one can’t tweak.
 
Thatbastarddon said:
I used project templates a lot. Not so much for solo stuff, but when recording bands(mine or others) I would use templates…much, much easier. Plus…just because one may start with a template, doesn’t mean one can’t tweak.
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That’s what I mean.
I keep using the same FX basically and tweaking.
I just want to have the FX there already then I can adjust to taste.
 
"Save effects as chain" menu option in the effects.

I save chains but then always feel I have to start fresh. Not exactly the idea, aey? Lol.

Like Don, I start with a template as well. If I need to change the template I do, then I save to rewrite over the same one.

(I just filled in the blank while Don got his morning kick start. I happen to be well caffeinated already.)
 
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