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smitty_p said:
Oh, I’m not pushing Tesla or even EVs. But, I recognize the direction things are moving.

Did did you dislike something about Tesla or was there some “Wow” factor you were expecting?
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The Tesla definitely has the acceleration and traction to impress. The sting is dismal at best, but I didn't care for how unreliable the cars were. I mean, with an 8 year warranty, who rely cares, bit the constant electrical issues, failed batteries, failed electric motors and failed electronic door handles.

I've never worked for a more unreliable car maker.
 
Robert Herndon said:
The Tesla definitely has the acceleration and traction to impress. The sting is dismal at best, but I didn't care for how unreliable the cars were. I mean, with an 8 year warranty, who rely cares, bit the constant electrical issues, failed batteries, failed electric motors and failed electronic door handles.

I've never worked for a more unreliable car maker.
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Yeah, I seem to recall hearing about some of that back then, too. I would imagine the technology has improved in the last nine years.

Of course, even early automobiles and engines had issues and difficulties when they were first being developed in the late 1800’s.
 
smitty_p said:
Yeah, I seem to recall hearing about some of that back then, too. I would imagine the technology has improved in the last nine years.

Of course, even early automobiles and engines had issues and difficulties when they were first being developed in the late 1800’s.
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Guys who are still with Tesla tell me the reliability issues are still ultra high, but they are officially directed (now) not to post about or discuss the failures.
 
I do agree Smitty it will happen ..... we are working on new AMAZON warehouse and distribution builds that have MILES of underground conduit and "base systems" for FUTURE EV delivery vans --- they wouldnt spend millions on that stuff now if it wasnt coming eventually-- but under pavement conduit lines and pvc tubing for the lines is one thing
the power grid to those bits of conduit -- is not in the equation-- the wire and JUICE and electric systems are not being installed the conduits are capped.


2035 is awful fast 2055-- 2100 sure... no doubt
but 2035???? again seems a bit "optimistic" simply put if you gave everyone a tesla tomorrow and took their gas guzzlers...... where are you getting the power to run them ?
how is that power being generated?
how does THAT effect the polar bears?

the idea is novel and ultimately do able---I just dont think it will happen that fast.
 
Robert Herndon said:
Guys who are still with Tesla tell me the reliability issues are still ultra high, but they are officially directed (now) not to post about or discuss the failures.
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Its been on the news here, they are still having issues, i don't pay attention to the issues, because I will never own one..
 
Cadorman said:
I've used Amsoil for twenty five years now. I even use it for my chainsaws bar oil. The 2000 Toyrota is well over 200,000 miles now and gets 100 put on it every day I go to work. Forty of that is on a low maintenance forest road. All gravel and boulders peaking up to annoy you. I change the oil once a year. Yeah, I'm lazy too.
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It's great oil, I sold lots of it to street racing guys. They loved it!
 
Robert Herndon said:
Guys who are still with Tesla tell me the reliability issues are still ultra high, but they are officially directed (now) not to post about or discuss the failures.
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Interesting, and it is consistent with an unofficial JD Power reliability statement for 2021 that rated Tesla 30th out of 33 manufacturers for reliability! But, that only speaks to Tesla as a manufacturer, not EVs as a concept. Tesla is the name everyone thinks of, but they are not the only player on the field, by any stretch of the imagination. Either way, for me, it doesn’t discourage me. The key is to give the development time to work out the kinks and for the prices to come down. Historically, that is the way these things go. There are hiccups and steps backward for some time, eventually things get worked out.
 
smitty_p said:
Interesting, and it is consistent with an unofficial JD Power reliability statement for 2021 that rated Tesla 30th out of 33 manufacturers for reliability! But, that only speaks to Tesla as a manufacturer, not EVs as a concept. Tesla is the name everyone thinks of, but they are not the only player on the field, by any stretch of the imagination. Either way, for me, it doesn’t discourage me. The key is to give the development time to work out the kinks and for the prices to come down. Historically, that is the way these things go. There are hiccups and steps backward for some time, eventually things get worked out.
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JD power is terrible for their reviews, If you are looking for unbiased reliability records., Consumers Reports is where you will find them..
 
Session 5 said:
JD power is terrible for their reviews, If you are looking for unbiased reliability records., Consumers Reports is where you will find them..
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Keep in mind, the JD Powers report is saying that Tesla is one of the worst (30 out of 33), essentially agreeing with @Robert Herndon’s experience. I posted that to support Robert’s statement, not to dispute it.

But, in articles I’ve seen from Consumer Reports, they often highlight reliability issues with Tesla, as well. I have not found a rating similar to the JD Powers rating.
 
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