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regular D'addario XLs.......or SHREDDER special strings????

  • Daddarios now

    Votes: 7 50.0%
  • SHREDDERS tomorrow

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • List your favorite "other"

    Votes: 4 28.6%

  • Total voters
    14
Nice post RH. I own several Gibsons but agree with everything you say. As ballyhooed as the Historic line is, I went through at least 7 of them to finally get one I really feel at home with. I have had more problems bonding with Gibson than any other brand and frankly, I find the USA line more consistent in general than the customs, at least among the dozens I tried. I currently own 4 LPs, 2 I really love, one I like, and one I am trying to bond with but man did it take a lot of time and money to get to where I am at today.

On the other hand my ESPs, Tom Andersons, even most of my Fenders over the years have all been pretty much good to go from the get go.

The upside to the Gibson fanboy movement is there is constant demand for resale of the ones that don't work out for you. I think it has become more of a lifestyle brand than a company that seriously is interested in what players want.
 
Adrian just may have found the "Holy Grail" in this Peavey.... :)

Not sure if its the Grail--- but it certainly is the fountain of youth in some ways..........wonder if the hole is still in my ear for an ear ring.......Suddenly I think I need to regrow my mullet!!!!

TO THE BAT CAVE>...wait no--------to soon???? perhaps
 
Not sure if its the Grail--- but it certainly is the fountain of youth in some ways..........wonder if the hole is still in my ear for an ear ring.......Suddenly I think I need to regrow my mullet!!!!

TO THE BAT CAVE>...wait no--------to soon???? perhaps

This is what it really is all about....
 
WARNING - OPINIONS TO FOLLOW - GIBSON LOYSLISTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO STOP READING:

I have received more than a few emails asking me to comment on recommending a "good guitar." Most are accompnied by a recommendation to purchase a Gibson because they are said to be "the best," without further factual basis upon which to make such a claim.

I do not promote the sale of my guitars here. For one, I am too busy to take any more orders this calendar year and i simply cannot tell anyone which instrument is "the best" for them. I can, however, share...

Adrian just may have found the "Holy Grail" in this Peavey.... :)

Well, since I'm not a Gibson loyalist, but am a guitarist with(holy crap!) 37 years of playing a variety of guitar brands under my belt, I'm gonna mouth off again. Just because I feel it's fair to voice my opinion on the matter as well, if not as prodigiously as the one that wrote the above quote...the one with twenty(yep twenty) timhes my post count over the same time period.
Why I would consider myself not to be loyal to one specific guitar manufacturer...well, seeing I own 16 guitars from(I think) 9 different manufacturers...Fender and Gibson are there, but so are several others. There have been quite a few over the years, and to me, a good guitar is a good guitar...period. Lemons can be found under any manufacturer label. I've had the opportunity to shop for my guitars in person, and online(gambling)...when I come across one that's not for me for whatever reason, I don't buy it...period. Wether that entails a return ship to an online retailer, or just me hanging back on the shop wall, I don't care...I understand that particular guitar is not for me, and move on.

I've also had my fair share of studio time under my belt, as a customer, and an operator...so I have some understanding of what is involved in that scene, in my neck of the woods. The death metal guys loved working with me in the studio when I used to do that sort of thing...so I'm familiar with high gain situations, and the needed conditions to come up with useable tracks in those circumstances.

So, Robert, we have some parallel experiences beyond both of us owning a Schecter from the same approximate time period. Since you have written, literally, thousands of times about your 3 Gibson purchases(spanning 15 years), over the last 6+ months on this forum, and I've mouthed off merely dozens. I would ignore you, but since you post more than anyone else here(unless I believe Wav's stat that I remember magically appeared near the beginning here), that would make things difficult. I'm also NOT one to harass anyone privately...not worth my time, nor do I condone such a course of action.
So now I will mouth off as I feel necessary, when necessary...publicly, and as appropriately as possible.

So anyway, I've purchased 3 new Gibson guitars since 2006, and my experiences have not been remotely like yours in any way Robert.

2006-purchased a Les Paul mahogany faded with Burstbucker Pro pickups, at a Guitar Center in Boston. I tried 2 others in the store before I purchased mine. It was my first Gibson, but not the first one I played. I liked it when I tried it out, and I still like it. It is all original equipped, unmolested by me, and it functions as perfectly as any hum bucking guitar that I've played since 1982. After 11 years, it's probably going to stay that way.

2012-purchased my first SG; a Special 60s Tribute with P90s. It was purchased at a fairly local store(within a hour drive), after casually shopping around at several shops that had any SGs in stock. I wanted P90s because of my experience with a Gladiator LP special style guitar. I can't recall how many SGs I played before the one that I have now spoke to me. The only modifications that I have made to that guitar were installing a Stetsbar, locking tuners, and a nut. I liked the guitar as it was, but I was curious about the Stetsbar...I had played a Reverand that had one installed, and it seemed a logical set up to me. It's still there. I haven't changed the pickups yet, but I may try something more aggressive in that one in the near future...just because...

Later in 2012- my first online Gibson during a year end clearance sale. An SG Standard P90, I purchased from guitar center under specification that I would be the one to break the seal on the factory packaging upon delivery to a specified store location. If the seal was broken, I wasn't accepting it. They cooperated, and I have been happy with that one since setting it up. Even though it has a dreaded circuit board. I probably will not modify it because there is no need at all.
It is a fantastic guitar...right up there with my Strat that I picked up in 1988. If I had to keep only 1, it would be very difficult to choose between the two.

So, there are my experiences. They are very different from yours....but similar nonetheless. I bought 3 Gibson guitars, and none of them sucked. I have a similarly demanding relationship with my tools, and choose them fairly carefully. Until recently, I didn't feel much need to be vocal about it. But one guy posts a few hundred, negative, repetitive posts per month on the subject...meh... I don't share in your experience there, and I feel that it is fair to post that at least once for every 200 of yours sir.
If you chose the same course with Fender, or some other line that I'm familiar with, I would feel the same way. It has nothing to do with Gibson as a target.

Regarding my distaste for Floyd Rose trem systems...they are my distastes, developed over a decade of live, studio, and personal use...if asked to share...I will. I didn't always despise them...that took time...and I understand why I feel that way...my particular style of heavy handed, rhythmic playing causes premature string failure for me. Not everyone plays like me, but if they do, they should have the opportunity to know...just like you.

I truly like this forum. I enjoy the opportunity to learn from others. I enjoy the opportunity to help others here, and the opportunity to share in the joy of GAS, and music in general.

Best of luck to you in your endeavors, sir.

Party on dudes(and dudets):dood::cheers: please forgive the interruption.
 
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Nice post RH. I own several Gibsons but agree with everything you say. As ballyhooed as the Historic line is, I went through at least 7 of them to finally get one I really feel at home with. I have had more problems bonding with Gibson than any other brand and frankly, I find the USA line more consistent in general than the customs, at least among the dozens I tried. I currently own 4 LPs, 2 I really love, one I like, and one I am trying to bond with but man did it take a lot of time and money to get to where I am at today.

On the other hand my ESPs, Tom Andersons, even most of my Fenders over the years have all been pretty much good to go from the get go.

The upside to the Gibson fanboy movement is there is constant demand for resale of the ones that don't work out for you. I think it has become more of a lifestyle brand than a company that seriously is interested in what players want.

Well said, Big Daddy.... :-)
 
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WHEW......theres a MILLION OF THEM.............I must say --- I am loving mine---but:
I am not a pro
I am in the studio
I dont HAVE a time schedule--- if it takes 4 days to get mine in tune ---so be it---

What I am saying is --- IF you have been curious--- if you have AVOIDED FLOYD --- dont......get a cheap one like this here SHREDITOR and LEARN--- make your OWN decisions.....and above all else HAVE FUN.

I can See Don where this ---- would not be the best thing for a heavy handed Studio Musician ---or Pro Gigging player....

For me I undertook it as a learning experience.......and I was happily rewarded.


No salesman will call----your results may very---not responsible for lost or stolen goods--- may ride up with wear--may cause slight bruising of the thigh or buttocks---elderly adults need not apply--- no elves where hamed in the rebuilding of this Floyd---however several unicorms where sacrificed......

Now back to the topic of this thread......


THE SHREDITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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We're not worthy! We;re not worthy!

Seriously though not sure what the big deal is. I having been playing them for 25 years. I can understand they can be intimidating. My first one was when I was a kid and I broke a string and was like WTF do I do now? There was no instruction manual or internet at the time. But once you get used to them. they aren't as cumbersome as some might think. I actually find them pretty easy to maintain. But to each their own. I am sure there are people that feel the same way about the tune-o-matic that I feel about the FR.
 
I think you need to send me a Kirk Hammett ---you know for a double blind comparo test against the Shreditor .....what ya got 2 ...... ;)
 
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WHEW......theres a MILLION OF THEM.............I must say --- I am loving mine---but:
I am not a pro
I am in the studio
I dont HAVE a time schedule--- if it takes 4 days to get mine in tune ---so be it---

What I am saying is --- IF you have been curious--- if you have AVOIDED FLOYD --- dont......get a cheap one like this here SHREDITOR and LEARN--- make your OWN decisions.....and above all else HAVE FUN.

I can See Don where this ---- would not be the best thing for a heavy handed Studio Musician ---or Pro Gigging player....

For me I undertook it as a learning experience.......and I was happily rewarded.


No salesman will call----your results may very---not responsible for lost or stolen goods--- may ride up with wear--may cause slight bruising of the thigh or buttocks---elderly adults need not apply--- no elves where hamed in the rebuilding of this Floyd---however several unicorms where sacrificed......

Now back to the topic of this thread......


THE SHREDITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yep, I see my old main guitar, and it's Floyd all the time...hell it still lives in my house...it's current owner leaves it here often. He doesn't have the problems as often as I had with it, but probably because he doesn't put the hours on it that I did. He has a Strat at home...amongst other things, and he never bothers to attach the bar any more now that I think of it...hmmm I gonna go check...nope...no bar.

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Note the two Peavey products in frame...one is mine.
 
Actually I just got done playing a gig with the KH-2 Vintage. Held up admirably and I even sprinkled in the new R9 for a couple of tunes for good measure. I don't know though, think you are up for a neck thru body ferrari equipped with EMGs, extra jumbo frets (the extras, we don't skimp on jumbo in Las Vegas) and Original O.G. Floyd Rose? May need you to sign a disclaimer. Just so you know, I got three more on the way via the ESP Custom Shop. You may want to wait and see if you like those better! These are the 3 on the way...
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Naw I am good ---send the white one I dont have a white guitar at present and sounds like you need to make room ;)
 
Yep, I see my old main guitar, and it's Floyd all the time...hell it still lives in my house...it's current owner leaves it here often. He doesn't have the problems as often as I had with it, but probably because he doesn't put the hours on it that I did. He has a Strat at home...amongst other things, and he never bothers to attach the bar any more now that I think of it...hmmm I gonna go check...nope...no bar.

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Can't say I have ever seen a compact disc pickguard before!
 
Naw I am good ---send the white one I dont have a white guitar at present and sounds like you need to make room ;)
No can do. I already sold that one out of fear of it turning yellow. My white strat turning yellow, vintage. My white Ouija turning yellow, just plain old.
 
We're not worthy! We;re not worthy!

Seriously though not sure what the big deal is. I having been playing them for 25 years. I can understand they can be intimidating. My first one was when I was a kid and I broke a string and was like WTF do I do now? There was no instruction manual or internet at the time. But once you get used to them. they aren't as cumbersome as some might think. I actually find them pretty easy to maintain. But to each their own. I am sure there are people that feel the same way about the tune-o-matic that I feel about the FR.

Yeah I didn't mean to make a big deal of them...when the question came up, I expressed my past frustrations in my experience. So I'm not a fan for myself. I'm not a hater either. I know that I'm not the only one that's had a string pop at a gig, or in studio while tracking. I just don't bond with the system. My problems were repeatable, and didn't occur with a hard tail(I switched to an ESP LTD Horizon with a tune o matic and never looked back). I did post happy stuff earlier in this thread because he was happy, and I was happy for him.
 
Great content, Big Daddy....awesome guitar collection too!!! I love the comfort/feel of a Stratocaster body, the 24.7" scale, 12" radius, tiny 6230 frets leveled low to the board, a super-thick neck and passive pickups in the 17k range....You know, I feel like a real idiot...it was over 20 years before I realized this is what I really liked/wanted in a guitar.

I bought a brand new Ibanez Destroyer II DT555 in 1983. Didn't realize back then it had very high ohm pickups (16k) and a 24.7" scale. Loved the guitar. Hated the oddball Ibanez tremolo.

Wayne Charvel was kind enough to install a Floyd Rose for me in 1984 and I absolutely loved that guitar. After it was stolen in 1988, I was really kind of lost because I didn't know all the details and I spent years being unhappy with guitars.

So now, I'm having a replica made of my Destroyer...kinda like going back to 1984.

Even my Strat-esque guitars get the fat 50's neck, 24.7" scale, tiny 6230 Fretwire and 12" radius.

I think because I learned on a 1959 Silvertone with really high action, I subconsciously clamp down really hard when I get into it and, with the 6230's, I don't pull my notes sharp, so I play with more freedom.

Wish I knew then what I know now...
 
oh just saw the note below the pic.........

what model is that ---is it a TRACER????
The Tracer is not mine. I just recon'd that for the dude that now owns the N2. That's the one with the pickup that I referenced earlier in this thread.( I think it was this thread)...the bass cab is mine though.
 
Great content, Big Daddy....awesome guitar collection too!!! I love the comfort/feel of a Stratocaster body, the 24.7" scale, 12" radius, tiny 6230 frets leveled low to the board, a super-thick neck and passive pickups in the 17k range....You know, I feel like a real idiot...it was over 20 years before I realized this is what I really liked/wanted in a guitar.

I bought a brand new Ibanez Destroyer II DT555 in 1983. Didn't realize back then it had very high ohm pickups (16k) and a 24.7" scale. Loved the guitar. Hated the oddball Ibanez tremolo.

Wayne Charvel was kind enough to install a Floyd Rose for me in 1984 and I absolutely loved that guitar. After it was stolen in 1988, I was really kind of lost because I didn't know all the details and I spent years being unhappy with guitars.

So now, I'm having a replica made of my Destroyer...kinda like going back to 1984.

Even my Strat-esque guitars get the fat 50's neck, 24.7" scale, tiny 6230 Fretwire and 12" radius.

I think because I learned on a 1959 Silvertone with really high action, I subconsciously clamp down really hard when I get into it and, with the 6230's, I don't pull my notes sharp, so I play with more freedom.

Wish I knew then what I know now...
Looks like some of our tastes are different. I prefer thinner necks and smaller radii but don't really have a preference on frets. Most of my guitars have XJ but I have had my share of reissues with small wire. Also most of my guitars are 25.5 but I do love a nice 24.75 as well. Variety is the spice of life in my book. My go to guitars over the past 20 or so years have been....

1. The ESP M2/KH series
2. Fender 62 AVRI strat
3. Gibson Les Paul Classic
4. Pretty much any double cutaway model Tom Anderson

I know what I like, and also enjoy variety. At least 75% of my collection falls into the above groups or close enough.

I will be interested to see the destroyer. My first memory of one was the one EVH hacked the poop out of and Paul Stanley of course. In the 90's J Yeunger of White Zombie had a green one with stars that was pretty sick as well.
 
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