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- Thread starter Sérgio
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Y'know, Sergio, an SG with mini-humbuckers may be more appropriate to your needs. They can still develop a lot of crunch, but don't have issues with muddiness. I find that I have to make fewer adjustments to my rig when going back and forth between my Strat and my '74 SG.
What pickups does yours have? I know you've told us, but I don't remember.
Anyway,
Here's an informal little clip I've made with my '74 SG Special, with mini-humbuckers. It gives you some sense of the sound.
This is just me goofing around with some random rhythm stuff:
https://soundcloud.com/smitty-p-1/sg-rhythm-riff
I've also posted this a few times, but this is also done with my '74. Its just the intro riff to Enter Sandman. Again, you can get a sense of the versatility of minis.
Just a thought...
https://soundcloud.com/smitty-p-1/sandman-clip1
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Sérgio
Ambassador of CaliZilian Affairs
Really?
And they're muddy?
Hmmm...I have '57s in my other SG and they're brighter than some of my other humbuckers.
Do you think the issue is more a matter of the contrast between your Strat and the SG?
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
Sergio, check Pickup height adjustments. These are very much a key to getting good sound from your humbuckers in an SG.
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Sérgio
Ambassador of CaliZilian Affairs
That. I think all it needs is some pup height adjustment, regarding the muddiness
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
Another thing is check the pot specs. Most people agree, 500K will be less muddy than 300k.
I think Gib has gone to 500K's in the newer SG's by now.
I think Gib has gone to 500K's in the newer SG's by now.
I had 57 Classics and the neck was muddy. I sold them.
Sergio...do you have a PCB???
Now I'm using a low impedance GFS PAF clone (7.9/7.8) with a Tone Man vintage harness K40Y Russian Tone Caps (.033uf bridge/.015uf neck) and it sounds amazing.
When I start playing it clean at Guitar Sinner, everyone comes over and asks to play it or wants to know what pickups/electronics it has...it sounds better, more clear and vibrant than any of the Gibson's they have in stock.
I am sorry to say that this Gibson SG was useless until I changed out the PCB and Gibson pickups.
My 20016k SG had 500k pots and .022uf capacitors. So did the Gibson 2017 Les Paul Tribute PCB I had recently....
That might help...
Would you like to try an aluminum tailpiece?
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
I would I think. You didn't like yours, Robert?
When I changed pickups, the Zinc sounded fuller. The aluminum is bright and will, to some degree, compensate for darkness...
Now I have the factory zinc tailpiece locked down with the Faber screws/spacers...
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
I was curious about using an aluminum one in place of my Epiphone one on my Lester.
SG goes to band rehearsal tonight....need to break in the Witch Hats!!!!
Will Do!!!!!
Ok...the relation of my bridge pickup to my strings was bothering me. I cut the adjustment springs in half and slightly twisted the pickup mounting ears so the pickup would follow the string angle off the bridge.
I debated on adding the bridge pickup trim ring, but decided not to only because I didn't want the exposed screw tips near my wiring.
Once I got the angle right (which didn't take much) I reassembled, setting everything back to pre-modification measurements. I then set the pole pieces on the bridge to Gibson's 4/64" recommendations.
Haven't had a chance to try it out just yet, but if you compare the beforehand after photos, there's a big change in pickup height...
Before:
After:
I will need to rebalance my pickups tomorrow....
I debated on adding the bridge pickup trim ring, but decided not to only because I didn't want the exposed screw tips near my wiring.
Once I got the angle right (which didn't take much) I reassembled, setting everything back to pre-modification measurements. I then set the pole pieces on the bridge to Gibson's 4/64" recommendations.
Haven't had a chance to try it out just yet, but if you compare the beforehand after photos, there's a big change in pickup height...
Before:
After:
I will need to rebalance my pickups tomorrow....
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Sérgio
Ambassador of CaliZilian Affairs
Played the first gig with the SG.
Not many good pics but...
Since I have been gigging with SSS Strats like forever, it was VERY tough to tame this beast at first.
Playing a guitar is NOT the same thing in every situation.
Playing at home, jamming in a garage, gigging in a small bar and gigging with PA, mic'd amps at a large place are ENTIRELY different things.
I still hadn't had an actual idea of how this guitar sounds when the amp is cranked up LOUD.
Dude, after I dialed in the right tone, it was a monster gig.
Not many good pics but...
Since I have been gigging with SSS Strats like forever, it was VERY tough to tame this beast at first.
Playing a guitar is NOT the same thing in every situation.
Playing at home, jamming in a garage, gigging in a small bar and gigging with PA, mic'd amps at a large place are ENTIRELY different things.
I still hadn't had an actual idea of how this guitar sounds when the amp is cranked up LOUD.
Dude, after I dialed in the right tone, it was a monster gig.
Gahr
Ambassador of Blues & Brews
Played the first gig with the SG.
Not many good pics but...
Since I have been gigging with SSS Strats like forever, it was VERY tough to tame this beast at first.
Playing a guitar is NOT the same thing in every situation.
Playing at home, jamming in a garage, gigging in a small bar and gigging with PA, mic'd amps at a large place are ENTIRELY different things.
I still hadn't had an actual idea of how this guitar sounds when the amp is cranked up LOUD.
Dude, after I dialed in the right tone, it was a monster gig.
Cool, Sérgio! Do you feel the change of guitars made the band sound very different?