What Happened to Gibson Guitars?

Don't anyone take my remarks as All or nothing Gib bashing because we know I DO like and enjoy my 4 SG's, Epi Lester, and Memphis made Es135 and would love any or all of ES series guitars

I hear you there...I’ve managed to find 5 that I like a lot, and was able to afford. I have other electrics too, they do outnumber the Gibsons, but they are all enjoyable to me. None are difficult for me to keep in tune.
Play what you like. Buy what you want. Enjoy what you do with it. Make some music.
 
Funny -- during the much maligned and hated NORLIN ERA (when IMHO the BEST Gibsons were made) ---they did try different things --
also especially headstock wise....
G3's 00 Grabbers and several 6 sting models had this
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I dont blame GIBSON as much as the CONSUMERS--- who pigeon holed and forced EVERYTHING HAS TO LOOK LIKE A 59 LEster mentality and none of the models above sold "well" when released -- there were others aslso
Marauders
Explorers
Corvus
Moderne
Reverse "V"

to name a few--- FIREBIRD X is another good example

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but its a FLIGHT OF ICARUS guitar IMHO too much --- too soon --- to ahead of the TECH that now COULD make it functional (ala Line6 Guitars etc) but---the "faithful" hated them and they made a brief appearance and GONE-----

zero nuts--- robotuners---

all sorts of ATTEMPS by "G" to do NEW and innovative things -- the public hates and poo poos and criticized

I reckon Ford would not be around anymore if they never advanced past the MODEL T ...........

Like many here I have the GOOD Gibsons I like -- and feel good to me-- might not be your cup of tea---but -- isnt that what makes it fun?
 
...- and the "local" Alabama Gibson repair guy (authorized for warranty work) opened the control cavity and said
"I cant even test anything in there---thats a PC board--I cant help you---...

That blows me away.

Electronically, connectivity with the PCB board is EXACTLY the same as with a traditional harness. It just uses circuit board traces and PCB-mounted components. So, whereas the physical layout may look different, all the same functionality and component integration is there.
 
I hear you there...I’ve managed to find 5 that I like a lot, and was able to afford. I have other electrics too, they do outnumber the Gibsons, but they are all enjoyable to me. None are difficult for me to keep in tune.
Play what you like. Buy what you want. Enjoy what you do with it. Make some music.

Exactly, Bastard. Kinda like even though one of my Gibson's has a narrow nut that crowds my fat fingers, I still like it. Kinda like my other Gib has a bound neck done the way I prefer Gib NOT to do it, I still love the guitar.

My Squier Tele is a sweet player but has a nut on the narrow side and a poly finish, and despite being made in China, it is a beautiful and awesome guitar for a fraction of the cost of an American made Tele.
 
And the list goes on. For a guitar company that hails by its trademark is floundering in its Quality is sad. When the consumer pays out good dollars for a top quality guitar you expect a top quality guitar. To me Gibson has rested on their laurels all these years. If they don't change their way of thinking, get back to the drawing board and make the changes they need to do with their quality they will go down. There is no longer a large base of young guitarists who will put out large sums of cash to have the name Gibson on the headstock, they simply don't have the money. And secondly the baby boomers are dying off so they wont be purchasing expensive guitars. There is one particular Gibson les Paul that has come into the shop in the last 6 months or so, selling price was around $400, I played it and was not impressed with quality or sounds that came out of it. You can buy a Squire Affinity Strat built in Indonesia for $270 which I once owned one, which played very well. Time will tell if Gibson has the staying power, in a market that is flooded with very good playing guitars from other Manufacturers .

That's EXACTLY what Gibson has been doing...resting on their laurels! I couldn't have said it any better Blues Session 5.:wink:


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That blows me away.

Electronically, connectivity with the PCB board is EXACTLY the same as with a traditional harness. It just uses circuit board traces and PCB-mounted components. So, whereas the physical layout may look different, all the same functionality and component integration is there.
the neck pickup was non functrioning on a rrival--- and the "local" Alabama Gibson repair guy (authorized for warranty work) opened the control cavity and said
"I cant even test anything in there---thats a PC board--I cant help you---_
I got him to let me use his Repair Number and ordered a new pickup (free) from Gibson--- and I installed it myself--

Plus, if I am not mistaken, all one has to do is unscrew the pups from the body,unplug it from the PCB and plug in a new one and screw it to the body?
 
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Session, I also viewed somewhere that the 24.75 scale length has a major bearing on tuning and intonation that Gib could fix but chooses not to but instead came up with gimmicky, low demand for guitars such as Gov't model SG's n weird painted things and the "FirebirdX etc etc that no one knew they wanted" until Gib thought it might be the next big thing.

God that FirebirdX looks way too complicated to play and it looks like you need a university degree to operate the darn thing. As I said in the past might as well glue a pedal board to your guitar. I don't mind the shape and colouring of the FirebirdX but it's operating concept really takes away or distracts from your guitar playing. And why did they only go with 23 frets instead of the full 24 frets (2 octaves per string)? Strange indeed.


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That blows me away.

Electronically, connectivity with the PCB board is EXACTLY the same as with a traditional harness. It just uses circuit board traces and PCB-mounted components. So, whereas the physical layout may look different, all the same functionality and component integration is there.
claimed he didnt have the "tools" to diagnose the problem..........

he just hated Gibsons "new" direction-- was a SOUR ex factory worker who goit the repair gig as part of his EXIT package I think-- he was a major dick to be honest--

but what "eves"
 
Plus, if I am not mistaken, all one has to do is unscrew the pups from the body,unplug it from the PCB and plug in a new one and screw it to the body?
exactly what I did Chili which proved the little white CONNECTOR on the pickup was bad--- that was all-- I CLIPPED it off -- tested the pickup (it was fine) and sold it on reverb for 75.00 in the NEW packaging GIBSON sent me the FREE pickup in ;)

Oh I didnt LOSE anything on the deal--- gained actually -- and gained KNOWLEDGE :)
 
It was obvious--- he opened the cavity -0- saw the board -- and was "done" -- shook his head said "they gone to these then?" ---
It was obvious he didnt WANT to fix I am sure he HAD the tools to do so-- many of them--he went on a 10 minute rant -- he used to work for Gibson-- got laid off-- but they "gave him" the Gulf coast region as the "Authorized repair shop" as his severance--his claim --I have no proof--

anyway---

it got solved-- and the guitar got traded for a lovely Vox Virage Semi hollow valued at CONSIDERABLY more than a lowly SG Tribute--- (and was a MUCH better guitar) and netted MUCH better, you guessed it, PROFIT--- so in the end-- Happy -- and learned a few things---

As I always say -- "This too shall pass" -- be it good or bad -- I guarantee you -- all of THIS TOO shall pass.......so play -- laugh -- buy gear-- horde pedals go what makes ya happy 'cause that too shall pass.
(Phil-aH-sophie from da swamp) ;)
 
THIS is what it was traded for the SC--
which I made $ off of -- but wish I had kept because the value of these have GONE UP-- they were 800-850 (used ) when I moved mine--- they are over a grand and some asking over 2 now!!!!!
 
yep--- shoulda never let that one go--- theose were Japanese built amazing amazing guitar-- didnt realize exactly what I had nor did I take the time to learn it--

they have some solid bodies floating around as well good quality but Korean made and not as valuable or as nice-- I tried a DC version last year -- it hung here for a bit -- it was better than your average say Epiphone -- but not as good as the one above
 
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