The Settings Remain The Same:

[Inspector #20]

It would seem logical. There is no string movement over the bridge with a Stetsbar. The whole bridge and stop tail assembly moves in unison. This is not the case with a Stratocaster style fulcrum. Perhaps you should try to lubricate that bridge piece with some graphite....perhaps try dressing the breakpoints.

Have done both to no avail. Very strange behavior.

 

[Inspector #20]

@Thatbastarddon - Another experiment was adding 5 springs and decking the bridge. No change.

 

[Inspector #20]

Now, pulling the low E further sharp, by pressing down between nut and tuner, seems to pull the string back into pitch when it is released

I can't see any abnormal bridge behavior. Screws are new and fit the body well.

 

[Thatbastarddon]

If you fret and bend (anywhere on the fretboard) the string in question, instead of pushing behind the nut, does that return it to pitch?

 

[Inspector #20]

If you fret and bend (anywhere on the fretboard) the string in question, instead of pushing behind the nut, does that return it to pitch?

Driving home now. Will check and report back.

 

[Session 5]

I haven't done anything and I have the paperwork to prove it!

Can you please show us the paperwork..

 

[Session 5]

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Could you speak English please....

 

[Inspector #20]

If you fret and bend (anywhere on the fretboard) the string in question, instead of pushing behind the nut, does that return it to pitch?

@Thatbastarddon - Yes. Fretting/bending anywhere along the strings path returns to pitch instantly and with no 'plinking sounds.

String is .046" and slot is. 051" wide.

 

[Thatbastarddon]

@Thatbastarddon - Yes. Fretting/bending anywhere along the strings path returns to pitch instantly and with no 'plinking sounds.

String is .046" and slot is. 051" wide.

How’s the breakpoint at the trem plate/block? Is it clean? Lubed?

 

[Inspector #20]

How’s the breakpoint at the trem plate/block? Is it clean? Lubed?

Yes. Micro polished and lightly treated with Tri-Flow.

My Fender retiree told me it is the way the nut is cut and a new nut needs to be profiled for the shorter, Gotoh SD-91 Vintage Tuners that have a super-steep angle from the nut to the tuning post.

 

[Thatbastarddon]

Yes. Micro polished and lightly treated with Tri-Flow.

My Fender retiree told me it is the way the nut is cut and a new nut needs to be profiled for the shorter, Gotoh SD-91 Vintage Tuners that have a super-steep angle from the nut to the tuning post.

Ok....It has to be one or the other, bridge/string anchor or nut....one of them is binding/catching the string. One wind...preventing a smooth return to pitch. Frustrating, but probably fixable.

 

[Inspector #20]

Ok....It has to be one or the other, bridge/string anchor or nut....one of them is binding/catching the string. One wind...preventing a smooth return to pitch. Frustrating, but probably fixable.

Jack told me (30 years with Fender) that when vintage short hollow post tuners are used on a Strat, the low 'E' slot needs to be cut at a radical angle towards the post. He added that he seldom re-cuts a nut and would much rather start from scratch.

I asked him to do it for me ASAP.

 

[Inspector #20]

How did yellow do at test gig?

Good tone, lots of tuning issues.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Good tone, lots of tuning issues.

I am seeing this. Glad to take it off your hands for my Starcaster with a 1 9/16 nut

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Good luck Rob. Your Fender friend will likely fix it for you.

 

[Inspector #20]

I am seeing this. Glad to take it off your hands for my Starcaster with a 1 9/16 nut

Good luck Rob. Your Fender friend will likely fix it for you.

I think he can straighten it out. I just gotta stop these crazy projects and just concentrate on playing.

I am so easily distracted.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Look at it this way, YOU LEARN SO MUCH that if all went 100% easy every time, you would never have a resource of knowledge to feed from in times when you need to say. HEY wait a minute, I know what that is and why it is acting this or that way etc.

 

[Inspector #20]

Look at it this way, YOU LEARN SO MUCH that if all went 100% easy every time, you would never have a resource of knowledge to feed from in times when you need to say. HEY wait a minute, I know what that is and why it is acting this or that way etc.

True, very true...I just dive down the rabbit holes too often sometimes.

 

[Beagle]

Jack told me (30 years with Fender) that when vintage short hollow post tuners are used on a Strat, the low 'E' slot needs to be cut at a radical angle towards the post. He added that he seldom re-cuts a nut and would much rather start from scratch.

I asked him to do it for me ASAP.

You do have to file quite a steep angle into the nut slot for the E and A strings, a bit less with the D. The unwound strings less so. I've been doing it for so many years, I don't even think about it.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Here is another thought, Rob. Have you tried adjusting the saddle on your E string ever so slightly higher by tightening the allen screws, then also using the string length screw, run it in the direction to shorten the scale a smidge. I think this is the right way to make tuning Flatter a smidge. Then retune to pitch? I know, you will say intonation will be off then, but just kiss the screw like 1/16 turn at a time and see if it alters things.