Switching question

Ramo

Ramo

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Hey gang…

Can you recommend me looper pedal please?

What Im after is, I need to go from clean, dirt, solo with one switch.

In front of amp i have od and drop tuner, noise gate.

Fx loop

I have delay, chorus, eq and fx on/off pedal.

I want to be abele to go from od, to clean with chorus and delay without od, and back to do od ( rhythm channel) with one switch and kick in solo with eq and delay.

I hope I make sense what Im trying to say.

Loop 1 clean + chorus + delay
Loop 2 od no delay no chorus
Loop 3 od + eq + delay

ive been looking at patch komander but not sure if its right one.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Do you mean something like this?

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PX-8 PLUS True Bypass Programmable Pedal Switcher - Voodoo Lab

Pedal Effect Automation that Saves Steps and Improves Your Tone! The Voodoo Lab PX-8 PLUS is a MIDI-capable, programmable 8-loop audio switcher that provides total control over guitar pedalboards. Its basic function as an exceptional quality true-bypass loop strip removes all unused cabling...
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Aaaaaahhhh….I found the Hotone “Kommander” you were on about…so yeah…that is what you were asking about.
Never really went that path…when I moved from midi controlled rack mount fx, back to pedals, I was looking to keep things simple…

I was curious about going that path at one point, but never bothered. Sorry.
:cheers:
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Patch Kommander

4 Channel Programmable Loop SwitcherPatch Kommander is a light-weight, programmable loop switcher that keeps your pedals and effects in order.Four true-bypass loops guarantee a pristine signal, a built-in input buffer saves your highs and harmonics, and an ultra-intuitive control panel sets you...
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At that price, I’d give it a go.
 
Problem is: How to handle multiple loops for multiple pedals in the fx loop *while still maintaining control of the pedals before the amp input. This requires some forethought, prior to choosing the unit.
 
So…it looks like the VooDoo Labs may get the job done in the desired way. It has an “insert” feature that would allow splitting the bank of loops between loops 6 & 7. @Ramo could use loops 1-5(or 6) for his effects loop pedals, and loops 7 & 8 for any pedals he wants controlled between the guitar, and the amp input….
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Amp effects loop send would go to the main input, and “insert send” on the looper would go to the amp effects loop return.
Any effects loop pedals would go in loops 1-6.
Guitar would go into “insert return”, “output” on the looper pedal would go to the amp input.
This would provide two loops(7 & 8) for pedals out front(OD etc).
 
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Alright…for clarity on my silly thought process on this…

Ramo said:
In front of amp i have od and drop tuner, noise gate.

Fx loop

I have delay, chorus, eq and fx on/off pedal.

I want to be abele to go from od, to clean with chorus and delay without od, and back to do od ( rhythm channel) with one switch and kick in solo with eq and delay.

I hope I make sense what Im trying to say.

Loop 1 clean + chorus + delay
Loop 2 od no delay no chorus
Loop 3 od + eq + delay
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In front of amp:
Guitar to noise gate…from noise gate to PX-8 “Insert Return”.
PX-8 loop 7 gets the drop tuner..loop 8 gets the OD(or vice versa…your preference).
PX-8 “Output” goes to front of amp.

Amp effects send goes to PX-8 “Input”…
PX-8 loop 1 gets delay…loop 2 gets chorus…loop 3 gets EQ(or whatever order makes sense to you…that’s how you listed them) you will not need the “fx on/off pedal” anymore(?)
PX-8 “Insert Send” goes to amp effects return.

So…now you can make:
Preset 1 - “clean” = loop 1 and loop 2 on…all others off.
Preset 2 - “dirt” - loop 8 on(OD)…all others off.
Preset 3 - “solo” - loop 8 on(OD), loop 1 on(delay), loop 3 on(EQ)…all others off.

Of course, you may want to switch the fx pedals order to suit your desired end results.
You can also make more presets for other situations…using the drop tuner and stuff. Banks of 4 in preset mode, up to 36 preset combinations.

Edit: If I was still playing live shows, I’d probably be tracking my shipment by now… ;) :cheers:
 
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Jethro Rocker said:
I have a relatively chsap Mooer 6 loop switcher. Using 4 cable method you can have some fx in front and some in loop. It is programmable but I have never used it that way, just as a switcher.



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Pedal Controller L6 MKII-MOOER Audio

Pedal Controller L6 MKII Programmable Loop Switcher
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Nice!!! I was hoping you’d chime in! I was pretty sure that you had mentioned using a loop switcher in the past.
After obsessing over @Ramo and his need to automate his pedal rig, and looking at the manual for the Mooer, I see that it might meet the his needs. Looks like it might have just enough loop space available. His stated needs require 5 loops for his pedals at minimum, plus one to act as a split for front of amp loops, and effects loop loops…now I’m all loopy just thinking about it.
It’s programmable too.
Doesn’t leave any room for growth, but it looks to be a viable option for sure.
Just went to check price, and it’s not bad here…available on amazon.
In looking there I also see the JOYO PXL8…that looks like it would do the job as well…with an extra loop for possible future expansion.
Both are less than half the price of the VooDoo Labs unit.
 
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Thatbastarddon said:
Nice!!! I was hoping you’d chime in! I was pretty sure that you had mentioned using a loop switcher in the past.
After obsessing over @Ramo and his need to automate his pedal rig, and looking at the manual for the Mooer, I see that it might meet the his needs. Looks like it might have just enough loop space available. His stated needs require 5 loops for his pedals at minimum, plus one to act as a split for front of amp loops, and effects loop loops…now I’m all loopy just thinking about it.
It’s programmable too.
Doesn’t leave any room for growth, but it looks to be a viable option for sure.
Just went to check price, and it’s not bad here…available on amazon.
In looking there I also see the JOYO PXL8…that looks like it would do the job as well…with an extra loop for possible future expansion.
Both are less than half the price of the VooDoo Labs unit.
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It works well for me, again I do not use it as programmable and some effects do not run through the switcher, such as the Zoom G3 because it is a multi effect.
No room for expansion unless he wants something like a noise gate run in line with the switdher because it's always left on? No need for programming.
The Voodoo labs is certainly more versatile. Has me thinking....
EDIT I don't want something too looong on the board either.
 
Jethro Rocker said:
No room for expansion unless he wants something like a noise gate run in line with the switdher because it's always left on? No need for programming.
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Yeah…I already imagine his noise gate out front of the looper input(before the section for the amp input), but I don’t know how he runs it.
I keep my dirt in the noisgate loop, personally. But I am not running an amp effects loop currently. I’m feeding the front of two clean(ish) amps.
 
Actually my Mooer PL6 is the original, whicn has light up labels for each loop button. I really like that. Way easier than trying to remember whicn is which.

On my old smaller board.

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