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OMG your are on fire man!

LOL Coyote. You should have heard me make our whole family laugh the Friday before Easter. The step daughters and son are into Yoga, rock climbing and some other activities. The middle one who has been the least fit or athletic growing up was talking about a woman who was incredibly lean and had muscle man like back muscles as she climbed rock walls. The comment she made went along these lines, being in nice shape was one thing, but her back was ridiculous.............. As I saw the facial expressions they had when describing and picturing this woman, my deadpan answer was. "Baby got BACK!!!!!!!!!!!"

LOL they were rollin.
 
Only wooden ladder huh. Even fiberglass ones have aluminum steps no?

Aluminum scrappers will steal anything if scrap price goes high enough, Ask me how I know.
I do have a couple of fiberglass extension ladders and all my 6’, 8, 10, 12 are fiberglass.

Don’t use them a lot anymore, mostly bucket truck work now.
 
I do have a couple of fiberglass extension ladders and all my 6’, 8, 10, 12 are fiberglass.

Don’t use them a lot anymore, mostly bucket truck work now.


MAN I could use a good bucket truck and man lift. SO much high work for me here at our house. Tree trimming, Fascia and siding work and all sort of projects I am hurting too much to do off roofs and ladders and walk boards.
 
Back to Mitch and Gold Stringers, HEY Mitch, am I understanding that you generally would build commercial stairs using 12 inch centers or as you put it, evenly spaced given the width of the Set?

I am almost with you on how 12 inch seems like a sound choice for commercial use in which it is likely numerous people may be using a stairs simultaneously unlike what a home type set is likely to see. To me it is a liability safety issue which is mitigated by a few extra dollars in lumber for the 5 stringers instead of 3 or 4.
 
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Beautiful job, Norm. I wanted to post the other pics too,. but you already did. GLAD you got it in before the prices went up.

HEY, do you need a permit to pay for your right to build something like this deck and garden like we do down here?

I know here where I live, we need a permit to practically pee or breathe.


Thankyou Chilli we were fortunate to get the build in before the skyrocketing prices. There is no permit needed to build decks, small wood sheds etc, This campground is privately owned, everything must go through the owner first though and be approved, before the build begins. The municipality comes through once a year to make sure garden sheds are not oversize or the municipality will charge the owner, then of course we would get the bill. If you have an awning like the one i have with an add a room attached is a $300 charge every year. The Municipality classifies them as permanent units.
 
Norm, I have a little Mobile Home like that in Florida. Down there, they have what's known as Code Enforcement folks that cruise through to make sure no unbought and unpaid for building type work is being done on anyone's properties. Here in Maryland we have a similar arm of big Government called Inspections and Permits departments. There is where you have to file building plans ( Architect's charges) Pay the permit Fees, then be subject to periodic inspections while the work is in progress. Then once final inspection is approved you get the fun of paying the extra taxes assessed because now you property has increased in value and the government can soak you for more taxes. It sort of incentivises letting your property deteriorate,,,,,,, in my opinion. Needless to say, I bet you can tell, I hate giving my hard earned money to THE MAN.

PS you did a beautiful job with your deck etc
 
Norm, I have a little Mobile Home like that in Florida. Down there, they have what's known as Code Enforcement folks that cruise through to make sure no unbought and unpaid for building type work is being done on anyone's properties. Here in Maryland we have a similar arm of big Government called Inspections and Permits departments. There is where you have to file building plans ( Architect's charges) Pay the permit Fees, then be subject to periodic inspections while the work is in progress. Then once final inspection is approved you get the fun of paying the extra taxes assessed because now you property has increased in value and the government can soak you for more taxes. It sort of incentivises letting your property deteriorate,,,,,,, in my opinion. Needless to say, I bet you can tell, I hate giving my hard earned money to THE MAN.

PS you did a beautiful job with your deck etc
Same here in CA. When we put a pool in back in 2008, had to get permits and inspection. Then the property taxes went up. Glad all my work on this place is inside so far. I don’t need no stinking permits or inspectors! Of course I’m not gonna be able to hide a new deck, so gonna have to permit THAT :mad:
 
Dono, The INSIDE work is a 2 edged sword.

I am all for fixing up the inside, BETTER and safer to code etc than even inspectors " check for"
But, like my fiancee asks me, if we do add bathrooms, change wiring, plumbing etc, without taking out a permit. what happens if we either do get work done that needs permits and an inspector sees prior unpermitted work? AND/OR what happens when you go to sell a house and list it and some home inspector spots unpermitted work and flags it for prospective buyers. I wrestle all the time with what to do or tell her. Then there is the county inspector people who can actually make you tear out work or stop an unpermitted job and make you tear out the progress before any permit to resume all over again can be filed.
 
Chilli, Our homes are the same way here as you fellows have. We have to have permits as well to do construction or renovations, electrical, drywall, plumbing, adding on additions to your home. And yes taxes increase , for example if you have a finished recreation room or finished basement, you will pay more taxes.
 
Dono, The INSIDE work is a 2 edged sword.

I am all for fixing up the inside, BETTER and safer to code etc than even inspectors " check for"
But, like my fiancee asks me, if we do add bathrooms, change wiring, plumbing etc, without taking out a permit. what happens if we either do get work done that needs permits and an inspector sees prior unpermitted work? AND/OR what happens when you go to sell a house and list it and some home inspector spots unpermitted work and flags it for prospective buyers. I wrestle all the time with what to do or tell her. Then there is the county inspector people who can actually make you tear out work or stop an unpermitted job and make you tear out the progress before any permit to resume all over again can be filed.
Chili, I know I’m taking a small chance, but I plan on this being my last place. Have never needed work inside of any of my homes that required an inspector to be inside. Years from now I can just say it was like this when we bought it :dood:. Yeah, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it...
 
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