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Rhett Shull - Why New Bands Don't Play Gibson Guitars
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SG John
Ambassador of Cool Guitars and Amps.
I know, but I’ve been through years of torture by people playing Peavy Butcher amplifiers. As a result, Peavy will never be on my radar. Unless someone wants to send me on the road touring, and I don’t think that will happen anytime soon. I honestly have no desire to buy anything these days. Maybe finish some projects, but that’s it.You know you can still get a USA MADE "vintage" instrument (that doesnt suck) for less than an Epiphone or Squire in most cases..........
made by real 'Mericans ... in Meridian Ms.
just a few examples
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Clockworkmike
Ambassador of STACKS in WV SHACKS
I personally dont give two flying #$!&s if someone else doesnt like the guitar I play or if it's even remotely popular. I play what I like because it's what I found cool and interesting
For all the smartass grief and complaints from people ( and face it, there will ALWAYS be the naysayers); I am a Gibson guy. It's not that I think its a status symbol, that I'm trying to replicate someone I idolize ( sorta WAS true in wanting an SG for the first time due to Young and Iommi) or that its popular for the time.
I liked Gibson from the first time I played it because it WAS different than anything anyone else was using when I started playing guitar. Obviously the first two guitars I owned were not Gibson ( a Fender and an Epiphone) but within 18months, I saved up my pesos and got an SG: a guitar completely uncool at the time due to Nu Metal and the usage of Ibanez 7 Strings, PRS and of course the venerable Fender Strats. But Gibson was NOT a popular brand at that time and so it immediately attracted me.
Basically anything anyone else popularizes, makes me run into a completely different direction lol
For all the smartass grief and complaints from people ( and face it, there will ALWAYS be the naysayers); I am a Gibson guy. It's not that I think its a status symbol, that I'm trying to replicate someone I idolize ( sorta WAS true in wanting an SG for the first time due to Young and Iommi) or that its popular for the time.
I liked Gibson from the first time I played it because it WAS different than anything anyone else was using when I started playing guitar. Obviously the first two guitars I owned were not Gibson ( a Fender and an Epiphone) but within 18months, I saved up my pesos and got an SG: a guitar completely uncool at the time due to Nu Metal and the usage of Ibanez 7 Strings, PRS and of course the venerable Fender Strats. But Gibson was NOT a popular brand at that time and so it immediately attracted me.
Basically anything anyone else popularizes, makes me run into a completely different direction lol
The scale length alone is reason to jump ship, IMHO.
Clockworkmike
Ambassador of STACKS in WV SHACKS
An SG's or the ones I mentioned? Lol
SG John
Ambassador of Cool Guitars and Amps.
Greed and profit don’t do much for me. Yes, I like proper compensation like anyone else. But, I’m never looking for angle to make the next buck. I get paid good for what I do Monday through Friday. I still want music to satisfy my soul. I’m too small of a fish in a big sea in this area. I’d like to keep it where I still love it. Just hoping now the drummer recovers from all his surgeries, otherwise playing out in a band situation, or this one is done. I’ll find something else if that happens.
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
BUWAHAHA me too -- which is why I will regularly swap form a vintage all original perfect 1970 Les Paul Recording guitar.(think they are hovering in the 2-4k range)_ ....... to a 169.00 GROTE lol --
to me the GUITAR says or FEELS a certain way -- they speak -- some do some dont ... some say poop I dont like ... and they go away ... that is the FUN of this being a HOBBY not a JOB ..... I can do WTF ever I want and ...... it doesnt matter
I will not lose fans
I will not lose a recording contract
I will not lose sleep
over a bit of it
this HOBBY is meant to be just that......... fun ...light....enjoyable -- when it stops being that ... Ill start collecting trains or .... coins ... or body parts..... or.... oh wait.... uhm.........
sshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Music is my Monday through Friday, and I do have to be concerned with making a living, so I'm on a different plane in that regard, but I like what I do for a living.
I do hope your drummer recovers soon!!!!
Far Rider
Ambassador Of The Cataverse
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Honestly Robert, I could not name a single Slash song, nor recognize one if I heard it. Over the years I just got so tired of the "Slash is God" talk.
I can understand.
I feel this way about Aerosmith, Rush, Gilmour....I just don't 'get' their popularity. But, if I do know a person on a professional or personal level, I feel obligated to describe them based on my interactions with them.
Session 5
Ambassador of Strings & Wings
I find a few people here when it comes to guitars specifically they don't like guitars that are made in China , well i see they want to buy American made, support your local workers keep jobs in America . I get it , but don't blame the Chinese for making a good product. The people to blame are your high roliing American businessman that want to make higher profits . They are the ones who want to put those slave driven kids to work. they are the ones that want to build factories in China, so they can make high profits, thats what its all about greed.
I know one Canadian businessman in Canada who likes to have things maufactured in China as well, the bottom line is profits. The thing is after working at a job for 38 years, I have seen quite a few lazy individuals who don't want to work in my lifetime, they want the money, but they are more interested in wasting company time on their smart phone or being out in the smoke shack, rather than putting in a good days work.
This to me is also part of the problem why Companies prefer to go off shore to have things made including guitars. Maybe when and if mindsets change of some individuals in the workplace. in the future to have a good work ethic , and Rich Businessmen become less greedy about $$$$$$$$s there will be a better balance of Company's making guitars and goods in our Country's instead of China. These companys are seeing that Chinese are producing some very good work, we are seeing this now in Chinese guitars.
If there should be blame for guitars coming out of China, Blame the Companys that put the dollar above the American and Canadian workers. You know the names of many of these Rich greedy individuals, they are in the news, on reality TV shows etc,etc....
I know one Canadian businessman in Canada who likes to have things maufactured in China as well, the bottom line is profits. The thing is after working at a job for 38 years, I have seen quite a few lazy individuals who don't want to work in my lifetime, they want the money, but they are more interested in wasting company time on their smart phone or being out in the smoke shack, rather than putting in a good days work.
This to me is also part of the problem why Companies prefer to go off shore to have things made including guitars. Maybe when and if mindsets change of some individuals in the workplace. in the future to have a good work ethic , and Rich Businessmen become less greedy about $$$$$$$$s there will be a better balance of Company's making guitars and goods in our Country's instead of China. These companys are seeing that Chinese are producing some very good work, we are seeing this now in Chinese guitars.
If there should be blame for guitars coming out of China, Blame the Companys that put the dollar above the American and Canadian workers. You know the names of many of these Rich greedy individuals, they are in the news, on reality TV shows etc,etc....
dmatthews
Ambassador of Birds
I dunno buddy... I'd put my Silver Sky up against any Strat any day.
Far Rider
Ambassador Of The Cataverse
Well said. We are in a global economy now, and I fear the good old days are gone.
dmatthews
Ambassador of Birds
There must be a reason for this...
guitar.com
The PRS Silver Sky outsold all USA-made Fender Stratocaster models on Reverb in 2021
The bestsellers list includes a wide range of Fenders and Squiers – but Jazzmasters miss out on the top 10.
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dmatthews
Ambassador of Birds
Anyway...
It's fun to pontificate about how cool/uncool Gibson's classic designs are, but all I can say is that they're not going anywhere.
They are a standard and a default to be compared to all/many others.
Great guitars and designs that stand the test of time.
Can't argue with that.
It's fun to pontificate about how cool/uncool Gibson's classic designs are, but all I can say is that they're not going anywhere.
They are a standard and a default to be compared to all/many others.
Great guitars and designs that stand the test of time.
Can't argue with that.
I dunno buddy... I'd put my Silver Sky up against any Strat any day.
I am not saying it's not good in terms of setup and adjustment.
It's an embarrassment for PRS to try and pass it off as new and innovative.
It's a Stratocaster copy with a PRS neck.
I feel like they missed an opportunity to make something really special.
There must be a reason for this...
The PRS Silver Sky outsold all USA-made Fender Stratocaster models on Reverb in 2021
The bestsellers list includes a wide range of Fenders and Squiers – but Jazzmasters miss out on the top 10.
Monkey see, monkey do, IMHO.
Fender has spent a fortune pimping the Stratocaster in general. It's iconic.
PRS is a copier. They copied the Les Paul (called it a single cut) to capitalize on the stigma.
Same with the silver sky. It's smart marketing.
Some people are fascinated with John Mayer.
My co worker Johnny, who demos my guitars, smokes Mayer 6 ways from Sunday.
But to me, what the masses do is not what I want to be a part of...
dmatthews
Ambassador of Birds
That's OK.
And I agree the headstock looks... um... out of place?
Not sure what "really special" means though. What would you have done differently?
The neck IMHO is true to 63/64 style and playability with great frets and a 7.25 radius. It feels wonderful in hand.
All 5 positions are beautiful and useable tones.
Not sure what I'm missing out on apart from a headstock and a sticker?
dmatthews
Ambassador of Birds
Custom 24/22 ain't no copy.
Santana neither.
Just cuz they started in 1985 doesn't mean they're a copier.
Yes, your two examples of Silver Sky and SC (I own both) are nods to and/or copies but I'll say it out loud... They are improvements.
IMHO.
I play Gibsons because I can..
I play Fender because I can..
They are what I spent my hard earned money on ,, and I love them all. And have no regrets whatsoever on my purchase’s.
GG player for life ..
Thanks
Mitch
I play Fender because I can..
They are what I spent my hard earned money on ,, and I love them all. And have no regrets whatsoever on my purchase’s.
GG player for life ..
Thanks
Mitch