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Mr Grumpy
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Korea manages locallized incidents very well.
So, for example, if somebody is found to be sick in my area then I get texts messages telling me everywhere they've been (shop, cafe, hospital, workplace, school, etc) and what time. That person and people in contact with them are dealt with by the social services - and dealt with well, Korea has a very low mortality rate.
Unis and schools started three weeks late, and are now online for the next few weeks to see how things pan out. Everyone wears masks to help stop the transmission. Every shop, railway, bus, etc, has hand gel available for free. &, you can't go to a doctors surgery or hospital without security guards forcing you to wash your hands with gel, you gotta be wearing a mask and they take your temperature - if you fail any of the above then you are not allowed in. Also, there are daily updates sent to your mobile which tell you how many are affected in your local area, and the emergency numbers to call if you think you are affected (at which point you stay at home and they come and sort you out...). We had 5,000+ people infected from one church which has connections with Wuhan, they refused to be tested, so the law was changed and they were all forced into testing programs and isolation where needed.
Korea is in a good place now whereas a few weeks ago it was looking pretty bad as we had 500+ new cases per day every day for a week. Now, very few new cases.
I see the US and Europe as complete cluster fuks, and as a result of terrible healthcare management it is gonna be bad there, imho... There is a lot of information from China (is it accurate?) and Korea (it is accurate and trustworthy), so I have no idea why idiotic governments like the UK are looking at Italy (which has been a complete failure) for their information and development of measures rather than Korea - dumb...
So, for example, if somebody is found to be sick in my area then I get texts messages telling me everywhere they've been (shop, cafe, hospital, workplace, school, etc) and what time. That person and people in contact with them are dealt with by the social services - and dealt with well, Korea has a very low mortality rate.
Unis and schools started three weeks late, and are now online for the next few weeks to see how things pan out. Everyone wears masks to help stop the transmission. Every shop, railway, bus, etc, has hand gel available for free. &, you can't go to a doctors surgery or hospital without security guards forcing you to wash your hands with gel, you gotta be wearing a mask and they take your temperature - if you fail any of the above then you are not allowed in. Also, there are daily updates sent to your mobile which tell you how many are affected in your local area, and the emergency numbers to call if you think you are affected (at which point you stay at home and they come and sort you out...). We had 5,000+ people infected from one church which has connections with Wuhan, they refused to be tested, so the law was changed and they were all forced into testing programs and isolation where needed.
Korea is in a good place now whereas a few weeks ago it was looking pretty bad as we had 500+ new cases per day every day for a week. Now, very few new cases.
I see the US and Europe as complete cluster fuks, and as a result of terrible healthcare management it is gonna be bad there, imho... There is a lot of information from China (is it accurate?) and Korea (it is accurate and trustworthy), so I have no idea why idiotic governments like the UK are looking at Italy (which has been a complete failure) for their information and development of measures rather than Korea - dumb...
Session 5
Ambassador of Strings & Wings
Grump Canada is very good here at Communication, and I think a very good job with testing those who have symptoms , They have closed all restaurants the ones who have drive thru only will be operating, Dental offices, schools, some businesses closed for 3 weeks. Airports pretty much to a halt. Airlines pretty much shutdown. They have updated reports on the hour. The Government and health officials here working together. As they say these events could change at any moment and more actions taken if necessary. There's a lot happening. Some have been quarantined for 14 days after coming back home from other Countries.
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Mr Grumpy
Ambassador of Comings and Goings
Good stuff S5 - having been through this a few months ahead of Europe and North America, I'd say that shutting it down into managed pockets early doors is vitally important. Once this virus runs free then most healthcare systems will be overwhelmed. Also, it shows that countries should be able to be flexible, the European federal model is a complete failure for first world nations; the government needs the authority and potential, for example, to ramp up industry to make ICU care units in a matter of days - that cannot happen with the long and complicated parts chain of the EU. Hopefully, countries will start to realise that a semblance of self-sufficiency is important - it cannot be all globalised. I think I'm saying here what many of us understand - profits for shareholders by outsourcing to global markets/workers is a profit solution for the 1%, it is a disaster for society as a whole.
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Mr Grumpy
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Europe, supposedly a first world nation, now has more cases and more deaths than China, a third world nation - kinda shows the dire state of our healthcare management in Europe; dire...
Back on topic, my package made it's way from New York to San Fransisco today: that's 6 stops, quite a few miles around the US, and 8 days of 'hubbing logistics' without leaving the country yet.
Back on topic, my package made it's way from New York to San Fransisco today: that's 6 stops, quite a few miles around the US, and 8 days of 'hubbing logistics' without leaving the country yet.