Opinions please...2x112 cabs vs 1x212 cab?

DirtySteve said:
First off it's not the cab I ordered, I talked to him in emails about the cab and we came up with a 112 cab that was smaller width and height, but would be deeper to compensate. He made a custom cab for a guy on the MF and it was going to be basically the same thing and we talked about it. But when I got my cab it was his standard Marshall style 112 cab...not what I wanted, but I didn't want to go thru the hassle of returning it and waiting for him to build another cab so I just bit my lip and kept it.

Well, over time and countless speaker swaps I just never really liked the sound of the cab no matter what I tried. I was playing a makeshift cab that I converted out of an MG15 for a 10" speaker and I played it more than the Sourmash cab. For reference, when I bought my MX112R cab it was awesome right from the git go, it sounds way better that the Sourmash cab ever did and I have since compared them side by side. I can't put my finger on what it is about that cab, I just don't like it, not the look or the sound. If turning into a 210 doesn't make me love it it's going right in the dumpster and I won't give it a second thought.
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I agree except sell the cab on MF. Lol
I like your plan.
 
SG John said:
I'd go with the 2x12. Especially if it is angled. That way, if you feel like walking around with the guitar on a strap the sound will be dispersed better. It will also look nicer with the head on top. Get the full Marshall visual effect.
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Also, there's something about multiple drivers in the same enclosure that seems to breathe in the room more, move more air than the same number in separate enclosures. Can't put my finger on it, but it just feels more alive.
 
I wish Marshall made a 112 slant cab that matched the cab I have. What I like about the SC212 cab is the angled top speaker, can't do that with 2 straight cabs stacked.
 
Funny story and proof that I am indeed a dumbass! :facepalm:

I was talking about how my Sourmash cab sounds like ass and I didn't have a clue that it did until I bought my MX112 cab. It doesn't sound good with my SC20 and I haven't even played my HG Plexi that was my only amp for many years (built around 10 years ago) since I bought my SC20 combo back in March. The reason I haven't played it is because my SC combo sounded better and I didn't really want to mess with it anymore. I've literally been fighting with it for 10 damn years and though it's always sounded good, I just could get what I wanted out of it and I never thought it sounded as good as it should except for one time which I'll talk about in a minute.

This is the cab in question, a Marshall style 112 birch ply cab on the bottom here...

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I have swapped several different speakers in this cab over the years and nothing helped, I just couldn't get my amp dialed in just right and never once ever thought that the cab itself could be the problem, I always blamed the amp or the speaker or my pickups or whatever, never questioned the cab until we talked about it in this thread.

Well today I pulled out my HG Plexi to see if it sounded better through my MX112 cab and my jaw hit the floor. Holy crap! The last (and only) time it's ever sounded this good was when I took it to a friends house and we hooked it up to a 412 cab and it blew us both away how good it sounded. Well of course I blamed it on the 412 cab at the time and didn't really think much of it because I couldn't justify buying a 412 cab (and still can't for several reasons) so I just figured I'd have to live with it sounding "not as good" with a smaller cab.

I've learned a very expensive lesson and it only took me 10 damn years to learn it. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

So, the Sourmash cab is going in the dumpster, I'm not going to try to sell it and I can't even bring myself to give it away because there's no one I dislike enough to dump it on. I'm also very very happy to find out that my Lil' Devil is what I thought it should be all along, an absolute beast!

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67plexi said:
Before you chuck the cabinet try it open back just take the back cover off and try it out
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The problem is I don't like open back cabs, but I have tried that before a couple of times. I need a closed back cab so I don't thump my neighbor's walls so even if it did sound better open it still won't work for me, but I didn't think it sounded any better anyway.
 
I'm starting to question everything now. I have 2 SC20s now (a combo and a head) and my Lil' Devil is killing them, which it should. Like I said, a very expensive lesson. Now I'm thinking about selling the SC20 head and keeping the combo (the exact opposite of what I was thinking when I started this thread) and getting a 212 cab for my Lil' Devil and keep the MX112 cab to stack with my combo, which is what I bought it for to begin with.
 
For those wondering what the amp I'm talking about is... It's a 18watt Cameron/Jose High Gain Plexi circuit with a 3 way switch that goes Cameron/off/Friedman HG clipping. It's a long story and a touchy subject on several forums about how it came to be. It's one of a kind and I built it with a lot of help on the MF....mostly Terry, AKA T-Rex. It's a beast I tell ya!
 
DirtySteve said:
Now I'm thinking about selling the SC20 head and keeping the combo (the exact opposite of what I was thinking when I started this thread) and getting a 212 cab for my Lil' Devil and keep the MX112 cab to stack with my combo, which is what I bought it for to begin with.
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I like your plan for the 212 with the custom head & SC20C / MX112 stack.
What's the width on the Lil' devil head shell?
There's a white Origin 212A half slant like you want that would match (21" wide) if it's not going to look like a Stonehenge with that head.
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fitz said:
I like your plan for the 212 with the custom head & SC20C / MX112 stack.
What's the width on the Lil' devil head shell?
There's a white Origin 212A half slant like you want that would match (21" wide) if it's not going to look like a Stonehenge with that head.
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I already thought about that. The MX212A cab is just like that and it's also 21" wide, which is exactly what my head is. I was actually thinking about getting a new black head box, but if that is an off white that would match my head box it would be perfect. Too bad I'm not ready to buy yet. I have to sell something first.
 
Actually, I'm over the white cab thing. I liked that 10 years ago. I think I'd rather buy a new black head box and a black cab. I have no problem with my Sourmash head box and would buy another on from them. They're the only ones I see that are 21" wide, and my chassis won't let me go any smaller. It's $220 for the head box and the MX212A cab is $500 new, less if I find one used. That's doable if I sell either one of my SC20s and I'll have some left over for a Drop pedal I'm apparently GASing for since I just found out about them yesterday and suddenly need one badly. :fingersx:
 
DirtySteve said:
I'm starting to question everything now. I have 2 SC20s now (a combo and a head) and my Lil' Devil is killing them, which it should. Like I said, a very expensive lesson. Now I'm thinking about selling the SC20 head and keeping the combo (the exact opposite of what I was thinking when I started this thread) and getting a 212 cab for my Lil' Devil and keep the MX112 cab to stack with my combo, which is what I bought it for to begin with.
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This was just a fluke, just a little reacquainting with my former love. The next day when I played it again I realized I spoke too soon. It's a great amp, but it needs volume to make the magic and I can't do that very often. I put it away. Disregard that post and any other references please, there was alcohol involved. :facepalm: :whistle:
 
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