More news of Gibson's demise

It's the new way of the world. All Toys R Us stores are closing. Kids will never see a real toy store. I took my son to one when he was 10 months old (18 years ago). He picked out his own stuffed animals. He wouldn't let go of a giant Lala from Teletubbies. We could dress it in his clothes. What do you do, have the kid look at Web sites?
 
What I take from this is that Gibson will persist, though likely under new management and significant restructuring.

In the end, it could be a good thing.
 
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Chubbles said:
It's the new way of the world. All Toys R Us stores are closing. Kids will never see a real toy store. I took my son to one when he was 10 months old (18 years ago). He picked out his own stuffed animals. He wouldn't let go of a giant Lala from Teletubbies. We could dress it in his clothes. What do you do, have the kid look at Web sites?
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I have mixed opinions about Toy R Us. When I was a kid, my dad would take me to a couple of local family owned toy stores like Macabob Toy Store Carousel Toys and Toy Town. I grew up shopping at these stores as a kid and as a father getting toys for my kids. I watched these stores go under due to their inability to compete with Toy-R-Us. I was friends with the owners of these shops and sad to see them go out of business. Now Toy-R-Us has an inability to compete with the Internet. Vicious circle this is.
 
When I hear the name Henry mentioned in the same sentence as Gibson I always think of

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I always wanted to be an ice delivery and mobile knife sharpening man, but by the time I growed up there was that damn electricity (the Devil), Nikola Tesla, and those eeelectric ice boxes (also the Devil).

Now there is the internet, once again: the Devil.
It always sounded suspect the claim that Algore discovered the Devil.

I dont think Tesla was the devil, but I suspect the devil killed him and stole his drawings and papers.

I guess times have changed a bunch.

(should I mention this is satire?)
 
I don't think I'll lose any sleep if Gibson goes out of business. It's out of my control and I have more important things to worry about. Besides there are other guitar companies that make better guitars at a fraction of the price. Gibson is all about nostalgia and they've been resting on their laurels for so long under Henry J. If a Chinese group buys out Gibson and moves their operations over to Asia then probably the prices will go down on their guitars to a more reasonable level. Epiphone has proven that they have improved in quality over the past years now and their QC seems more higher or more consistent than Gibson's. It is what it is in my books.


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I don’t think Gibson is going to just go out of business.

Shareholders have too much at stake. The core business is stable and sustainable, but suffering under the weight of the other interests.

If anything, Henry will be forced out, Gibson will have to sell off all its other acquisitions, restructure the company, and maybe downsize for awhile.

This may actually force Gibson back to its core competency - something for which the guitar community has been clamoring for quite awhile.

There will be tough times ahead for the company, but I’m actually optimistic.
 
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Gibson is all about nostalgia and they've been resting on their laurels for so long under Henry J.
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No, they are everything. Maybe including silly. Definitely proving bad taste in wierdly colored guitars.
But not resting on their laurels: they alway try to bring out new models extending the traditional bread and butter instruments. But the market - the musicians - are the ones who accept almost only LPs, SGs and 335 and a few others of the famous old lineups.

EDIT: just read the Bloomberg article. Did someone find new information reaching beyond what we al know? I did not....
 
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As has been said there are enough used ones on the market --even if they lock the doors tomorrow I doubt any of us will see a true "shortage" of them in our lifetimes........

BEsides ...CHINA MAKES GOOD ONES............. for under 200.00 .........
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reminds me --- I like lemon
--actually I really do LOVE JPJ's bass work on this one......friggin awesome
 
bea said:
No, they are everything. Maybe including silly. Definitely proving bad taste in wierdly colored guitars.
But not resting on their laurels: they alway try to bring out new models extending the traditional bread and butter instruments. But the market - the musicians - are the ones who accept almost only LPs, SGs and 335 and a few others of the famous old lineups.

EDIT: just read the Bloomberg article. Did someone find new information reaching beyond what we al know? I did not....
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You might have some points there but I think they did a total fail on the Gibson Firebird X which was supposed to be the next revolution in guitar playing according to Henry J. The guitar had too many complicated controls that you needed to take a university course in order to operate the darn thing. You might as well just glue a pedal board to your guitar. And it also only had 23 frets...why not go all the way to 24 frets? That is just one example...I bet there are quite a few more like the pricing of their guitars which are way too high or over-priced. That's my 2 cents.


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BlackSG91 said:
..but I think they did a total fail on the Gibson Firebird X ...
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You're not alone with that. But remember the recent models/prototypes we discussed here. Some of them were really interesting. And then, over the history, avantgarde models starting in the late 50s with V, Explorer, Moderne, later instruments like the RD, the Victory, those power strats, the corvus series. And many many cool and interesting bass guitars which simply did not make it despite of good concepts...
 
BlackSG91 said:
I don't think I'll lose any sleep if Gibson goes out of business. It's out of my control and I have more important things to worry about. Besides there are other guitar companies that make better guitars at a fraction of the price. Gibson is all about nostalgia and they've been resting on their laurels for so long under Henry J. If a Chinese group buys out Gibson and moves their operations over to Asia then probably the prices will go down on their guitars to a more reasonable level. Epiphone has proven that they have improved in quality over the past years now and their QC seems more higher or more consistent than Gibson's. It is what it is in my books.


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