Herman Li Plays $120.00 Guitar and Does a Setup
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OP
Were you able to watch through both videos? Pretty intriguing!
eSGEe
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I did and ..... Ive been saying that all along --- but no one listens ..........
I have an 80.00 ORange Crush 20 .... that absolutely sounds AMAZING through a 12" peavey speaker
I had (see below) an ebay 48.00 (NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) 48.00 strat (I poorly rebranded as a Fender) very very OBVIOUSLY --
that played decent out of the box --- after a few tweaks (fret ends sanded down and set up w/ better strings) it was PERFECTLY GOOD -- with better pickups and tuners it would have been as good as any Squire .....
I posted about it --- but like the fact the 80.00 used Crush sounds good people do not want to hear that its POSSIBLE to sound good and make a joyous noise or enjoy playing a guitar that isnt at least 1000.00 or more
Beyond that @JohnnyGoo can attest MANY years ago before this forum even existed I used a Danelectro HONEYTONE
and ran it into a BOSE SOUND DOCK ........ and it sounded VERY VERY good for what that rig "was" trhwo a reverb in front of it and it would have been totally recordable
Hey--Ive been a devotee of CHEAP CRAP CAN SOUND GOOD for decades ----- I mean IM THE PEAVEY GUY !!!!!
Every peavey I have ever owned and own presently combined wouldnt cost as much as one Gibson Custom SHop reissue 59 Lester
ANd the harsh reality is I wouldnt sound any better on the Gibson 59 reissue than I did on the 48.00 no name ebay guitar
The
I have an 80.00 ORange Crush 20 .... that absolutely sounds AMAZING through a 12" peavey speaker
I had (see below) an ebay 48.00 (NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) 48.00 strat (I poorly rebranded as a Fender) very very OBVIOUSLY --
that played decent out of the box --- after a few tweaks (fret ends sanded down and set up w/ better strings) it was PERFECTLY GOOD -- with better pickups and tuners it would have been as good as any Squire .....
I posted about it --- but like the fact the 80.00 used Crush sounds good people do not want to hear that its POSSIBLE to sound good and make a joyous noise or enjoy playing a guitar that isnt at least 1000.00 or more
Beyond that @JohnnyGoo can attest MANY years ago before this forum even existed I used a Danelectro HONEYTONE
and ran it into a BOSE SOUND DOCK ........ and it sounded VERY VERY good for what that rig "was" trhwo a reverb in front of it and it would have been totally recordable
Hey--Ive been a devotee of CHEAP CRAP CAN SOUND GOOD for decades ----- I mean IM THE PEAVEY GUY !!!!!
Every peavey I have ever owned and own presently combined wouldnt cost as much as one Gibson Custom SHop reissue 59 Lester
ANd the harsh reality is I wouldnt sound any better on the Gibson 59 reissue than I did on the 48.00 no name ebay guitar
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Between 3:33 and 4:33, Herman slays the gear/pricetag snobs....Love it!!!!
I'm laughing at how good that little amp sounds up against a Kemper.
OP
What do you think of it when he used the Kemper to profile the little amp and then added effects?
I had to watch that one a second time!
For Christmas 2016, we bought our daughter a $229.00 Fender Squire Starter Pack that came with a candy apple red HSS Squire and a Frontman 10 amp. After setting it up to my specs, I did some noodling here at my home studio, Direct-Out from the headphone jack to my DAW.
I added some delay and reverb in Audacity, but made no post-recording edits...
Natalie's Red Squire is shown on the SoundCloud link provided below.
Listen to Natalie's Guitar - Impromptu Noodling On A 2016 Squire Stratocaster with Tremolo by Von Herndon on #SoundCloud
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I added some delay and reverb in Audacity, but made no post-recording edits...
Natalie's Red Squire is shown on the SoundCloud link provided below.
Listen to Natalie's Guitar - Impromptu Noodling On A 2016 Squire Stratocaster with Tremolo by Von Herndon on #SoundCloud
Natalie's Guitar - Impromptu Noodling On A 2016 Squire Stratocaster with Tremolo
Direct Out from the little Fender Frontman 10G amp that came with the guitar into Audacity with only delay and reverb added.
Loved it!!!!
Amp Mad Scientist
Ambassador of Heresy
Sure
a good guitar player can play a cheap guitar and sound comes out.
A good guitar player can make a crap guitar sound good.
does this really make good guitars worth less?
That amp: will last about 1 year and blow chunks...(like a Kantana...)
then they expect you will throw it away and buy a new one.
Yes there's lots of advantages to convincing players that good gear is a waste of money.
Buy more stuff from China, do it now, quick.
gball
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I didn't take it that way. He throws a lot of caveats in throughout about it being a beginner instrument and in no way claims that it rivals pro gear.
This sums it up nicely to me.
Also, no denying Herman is a very gifted player, but that is some seriously processed tone he is rocking there. Not sure if I was hearing the guitars or the computer.
eSGEe
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uhm hardly........... (seriosuly WTF are you DOING with your amps????) I know solid state amp owners (including katana owners) who have had them for years with NO ISSUES:
My Son has an AC1 VOX Rhythm that is 8 years old ish ?? No issues no implosions
Ive owned a laney Micro Lionheart several years its just fine no explosions use it 2-3 times a week
The Orange Crush 20 is at least 12 years old.... zero issues...
I have a Peavey Bandit that is from 1992 ish era??? still hasnt blown up hasnt had any issues .... still works great --
I owned one of these as MY ONLY AMP for 9 years when I lived in the keys .......worked perfectly well every time I used it...
And -- feel free to spend some time researching THIS VERY FORUM -- go all through it end to end and count the number of posts and threads devoted to
"my expensive tube amp (insert model name number here________) has crapped the bed...sounds horrible... broke ... let me down ... needs repair............needs hundreds of $ MORE spent on it -- Etc etc etc
then count how many posts and threads are devoted to "My solid state amp "broke needs repair let me down etc etc etc.)
the numbers are not even CLOSE ........
The reality is if it wasnt for BILLIONS of non pro home hackers and closet players BUYING ALL THIS GEAR we wouldnt have the level of technology quality and products we have today
And Epiphone and Squire and all would not be worth the BILLIONS OF DOLLARS the respective companies make from their "low end" marques
as always some just dont get it and never will ...... here is a SIMPLE graphic for you
IF YOUR MARIO ANDRETTI YOU NEED THIS TO HAVE FUN AND MAKE "MUSIC"
If your a working stiff w/ 2 kids and a mortgage you can have fun with this while making YOUR MUSIC and still paying the mortgage
notice Bogner Friedman and MANY other "boutique tube amp makers" as well as the "big guys" are jumping on the small micro head solid state amp band wagon??? Ever wonder why??
maybe 1500-3,000.00 high wattage stadium killing tube amp stacks are .......... (wait for it)..................not SELLING in the quantities they once did and they are STRUGGLE now to catch up with Hotone and Joyo and Behringer and the companies who have catered to the HOME player and hobbiest ???? becasue now there are WAY more home players and less sold out million seat arenas. ????
does it make tube -- or solid state better or worse -- nope -
but the level of low end gear has certainly come a LONG DAMN WAY from this
eSGEe
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solid state -- not LOW dollar combo pack level, but certainly cheaper than the tube amp its modeled after...mines late 80's ish era??
not exploded not needed replaced......not needed worked on since Ive owned it....I did change the speaker to one more of my preference -- otherwise....... LOVELY...decades of service no problems
not exploded not needed replaced......not needed worked on since Ive owned it....I did change the speaker to one more of my preference -- otherwise....... LOVELY...decades of service no problems
I've played more "junk" instruments on commercial recordings - @ $300/hour - than I have played 'Holy Grail' or classic, vintage instruments. ES Studios in Glendale used to have a guitar they called the Pawn Shop Strat and it was an absolute bottom of the barrel guitar, but it was also the one every wanted to play on a recording...and there was a wall of vintage guitars to choose from....FWIW
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I would disagree specifically with respect to the comment "Buy more stuff from China." I do not see it that way. I see it more from the standpoint that budget gear is more than capable of giving you good results and the average player doesn't need a $3,000 guitar.
I wouldn't say that my 1993 Marshall 8200 Bi-Chorus is any kind of high dollar rig, but the thing sounds phenomenal. I've had people ask me what I did to my 2019 MG100HFX to make it sound like it does, to which I reply, "i adjusted it..."
eSGEe
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gonna play devils advocate here too --because this is a point that I keep also CLUEING YOU ALL IN TO and "no one gets it"
Dear sir --- EVERY THING RECORDED YOU HEAR be it a recording of Etta James from the 50's to the newest top 40 hit just released YESTERDAY --
its ALL PROCESED -- period end of story
ONLY the guitar and amp (drums whatever) you hear in a given room at that given moment is precisely "as it sounds" ...and that is only IN THAT ROOM -- move tht same band to a larger or smaller room the sound will change record it.... and it beomes processed --period
so if you listen to mr Li on a kemper and mr li on a fender black face twin and mr Li on a dumble ...........on your computer --- through youtube .....its processed.....its all multilevel
If people have a PROBLEM with all the stuff MADE IN CHINA/OVERSEAS -- talk to the Owners, Mgmt. and Share holders at Fender and Gibson and PRS (ALL OF THEM) Friedman --HOOVER-- Kenmore--CHEVY-- etc etc -- because its the PROFIT MARGINS they are reaping ........ to USE foreign labor that is cheaper ..... that means the average joe buys a Squire over a USA Fender..... period end of story
nothing to do with quality (CNC machines arent prejudice)
nothing to do with how much tube amps sound better (to some)
nothing to do with HOLY GRAIL DUMBLES
has to do with the ALL MIGHTY $$$$$$$$$$
1 rich guy can buy a HIWATT STACK to play at home ...... 100,000 poor schmose can pony up for a Bugera V5 made in CHINA ..... not the schmose fault ...... should the schmoe be denied the ability to play?
SHould Behringer NOT make a good sounding amp that is affordable?
Only player I'm aware of who doesn't "process" his tone (to a significant degree) is Angus Young.