Guitar Setup Questions:

Is a full and comprehensive setup on a brand nee guitar reasonable?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 70.6%

  • No

    Votes: 5 29.4%
  • Total voters
    17
syscokid said:
I've read this post more than 10 times now. I tried compensating for misspellings. Experimented with adding accidentally left out words. The only thing left to do is to get drunk, cuz I can't figure out what the F Adrian is saying here... :BH:
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He was drunk when he wrote it
 
I forgot to add when I get a new to me guitar Ill generally check the relief and action height and ballpark it close enough to play it and let it settle in a day or so.
After that, FIRST i get then nut right (if it has or I put strings of the gauge I plan to use with it), by what ever needs doing, then go about the as per Biddlin' setup.
Also I DONT mess with it again until after a string change, and AFTER the new strings have had a couple hours play time of stretch and settle in.
I dont know why but E and A can be buzzy at first.
 
syscokid said:
I've read this post more than 10 times now. I tried compensating for misspellings. Experimented with adding accidentally left out words. The only thing left to do is to get drunk, cuz I can't figure out what the F Adrian is saying here... :BH:
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I believe the hint is in the "coffee is for closer's" part. Often, like yesterday (& now) I was on my first or second coffee of the morning while visiting TTR. Cheers
 
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I now know why you like the Faber locking aluminum tailpiece Robert. My LP, while by no means the darkest I've seen was, a little on the dark side. As I'd read of people having success alleviating this with the tailpiece conversion I thought I'd give it a whirl. Also, as the Nashville bridge intonated with the saddles reasonably in the center portion of their travel I thought I'd do the ABR conversion with the pressed in type steel posts. Now I know tone is subjective & that these conversions don't do well on all guitars, but all I can say is WOW. For me it was definitely a good thing. String vibration can be felt a good bit more through the body & neck. Sustain increased as expected. Acoustically its louder, but plugged in the tone, especially the high strings seem much clearer, the tone more open & lively. I only got to play it for a short while last night after completing, through my small champ type amp but I do like the change. I'll give it a good workout at volume this afternoon. Cheers
 
ivan H said:
I now know why you like the Faber locking aluminum tailpiece Robert. My LP, while by no means the darkest I've seen was, a little on the dark side. As I'd read of people having success alleviating this with the tailpiece conversion I thought I'd give it a whirl. Also, as the Nashville bridge intonated with the saddles reasonably in the center portion of their travel I thought I'd do the ABR conversion with the pressed in type steel posts. Now I know tone is subjective & that these conversions don't do well on all guitars, but all I can say is WOW. For me it was definitely a good thing. String vibration can be felt a good bit more through the body & neck. Sustain increased as expected. Acoustically its louder, but plugged in the tone, especially the high strings seem much clearer, the tone more open. I only got to play it for a short while last night after completing, through my small champ type amp but I do like the change. I'll give it a good workout at volume this afternoon. Cheers
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DUDE!!!

YES!!! It made sense to me that if all the early LP's had the aluminum tailpiece, there could be something to it. ALL my Gibson's (and the Les Paul Custom Replica) have the aluminum tailpiece and locking studs....
 
I'm a convert now too, it made a very noticeable difference, & for the better to my ears. I've read where people say its like taking a blanket off the amp & I kinda agree, for the high strings especially, even though I hadnt thought it sounded blanketed before. The ABR I used is also the locking one. Cheers
 
ivan H said:
I'm a convert now too, it made a very noticeable difference, & for the better to my ears. I've read where people say its like taking a blanket off the amp & I kinda agree, for the high strings especially, even though I hadnt thought it sounded blanketed before. The ABR I used is also the locking one. Cheers
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All these $100,000 vintage Les Paul's had the aluminum...Hmmmm!!!!!

If you search Gibson.com, you will find the current Les Paul Custom also has an aluminum tailpiece.... :-)
 
ivan H said:
I'm a convert now too, it made a very noticeable difference, & for the better to my ears. I've read where people say its like taking a blanket off the amp & I kinda agree, for the high strings especially, even though I hadnt thought it sounded blanketed before. The ABR I used is also the locking one. Cheers
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I prefer the ABR-1 over the Nashville for ease of setup and lower tailpiece height....and my FAVOURITE is the Philadelphia Luthier Tools ABR-1 Roller Bridge....
 
syscokid said:
Are you talking about the complete kit with the spacers like this?

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I used the complete Tone Lock Master Kit, locking ABR (ABRL), that tailpeice & locking studs & I also got the #3116 bridge posts where you remove the Nashville's post inserts & replace with the #3116 steel posts (reversible modification). Before putting the new posts in I measured the hole depth. They were about 1mm too shallow so I put a 6.5mm drill bit in a hand chuck, put one anti clockwise wrap of packing carton tape around the bit so it couldn't damage the sidewall of the drillings & carefully deepened the holes by about 1.5mm. Its a very easy conversion. Cheers
 
ivan H said:
I used the complete Tone Lock Master Kit, locking ABR (ABRL), that tailpeice & locking studs & I also got the #3116 bridge posts where you remove the Nashville's post inserts & replace with the #3116 steel posts (reversible modification). Before putting the new posts in I measured the hole depth. They were about 1mm too shallow so I put a 6.5mm drill bit in a hand chuck, put one anti clockwise wrap of packing carton tape around the bit so it couldn't damage the sidewall of the drillings & carefully deepened the holes by about 1.5mm. Its a very easy conversion. Cheers
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Ivan, Ivan, Ivan... you should know better by now: :pics3:
 
syscokid said:
Ivan, Ivan, Ivan... you should know better by now: :pics3:
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Here's one off my phone of just the bridge & tailpeice taken just after restringing, before intonating propely. I can post more this afternoon. Cheers
Edit; as soon as I took that pic I thought that I should have taken some during the conversion. Cheers
 
ivan H said:
I used the complete Tone Lock Master Kit, locking ABR (ABRL), that tailpeice & locking studs & I also got the #3116 bridge posts where you remove the Nashville's post inserts & replace with the #3116 steel posts (reversible modification). Before putting the new posts in I measured the hole depth. They were about 1mm too shallow so I put a 6.5mm drill bit in a hand chuck, put one anti clockwise wrap of packing carton tape around the bit so it couldn't damage the sidewall of the drillings & carefully deepened the holes by about 1.5mm. Its a very easy conversion. Cheers
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Very Nice!!!
 
ivan H said:
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Here's one off my phone of just the bridge & tailpeice taken just after restringing, before intonating propely. I can post more this afternoon. Cheers
Edit; as soon as I took that pic I thought that I should have taken some during the conversion. Cheers
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That pic almost makes me think covered pickups for my 2016 Gold Top!
 
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