Got new pickups for my LP

DirtySteve said:
Ok so I put a Planet tone Full Throttle hb in the bridge and so far I like it a lot. It's double black so it doesn't look as good. I'll have to order a zebra one if I decide to keep it in there.
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Ok I can’t find my paperwork with the specs but I believe both of my Traditional’s are burstbuckers, and they have a lot of bite in them, I have changed pick ups in most of the Epi’s but in the Gibson’s so far I have been quite pleased with them, but I might put a hotrod set of SD’s in my SG the JB an Jazz .
Cheers
 
SG John said:
I think Don has one of those types in one of his guitars.
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Yes. I put the Manlius Vinyl (hot T-top type) in the bridge position, and one of Mick’s T-top replicas in the neck position in my The SG Deluxe. I could not imagine being happier! They’re fantastic! Exactly what I was looking for!
I haven’t been able to stop playing it enough, when I have studio time, to stop and hit the record button ;) . That guitar just sings now.

I also have a couple of Manlius Asphalt pickups in the bridge positions in the guitars in my signature pic. They’re a bit more modern/aggressive when they’re fully unleashed, but they dial back really nicely. They do punk to Sabbath, to Tool, to Maiden……
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That said, I have a 57/57+ set in my Gladiator GG-258 that cook pretty well too.:)
 
I'm very disappointed in the Godwood neck pickup, at least in this guitar, I don't like it at all. I really thought if anything I might not like the bridge pickup, but I expected to be able to keep the neck pickup in there. I love the Darkburst neck pickup and I expected it to be similar, but it's not. I'll probably try them in another guitar before I give up on them.

Anyway, I'm really liking the Full Throttle HB in here. I need to order a zebra one. I have a full throttle neck pickup too, but I don't care for how bassy it is so this time I'll probably try a different one.

 
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DirtySteve said:
These are Burstbucker 61T and 61R. I assume they're different from the regular Burstbucker 1&2, but I could be mistaken. Don't get me wrong fellas, I don't think they are bad pickups at all and I really like the neck 61R, but the bridge pickup wimps out with higher gain. I like something a lot chunckier for that.

To be honest, after playing them for a couple of days now I'm not sure I like the Godwoods all that much, the neck is especially not doing it for me. The BB neck pickup sounded much better. I may be trying some other pickups.
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Pretty sure the 61 humbucker has a reversed coil offset fromthe Burstbuckers. When the coils aren't exactly matched it generally gives a humbucker better definition with a slightly more open sound, and usually stronger treble. BBs have the slug coil wound slightly heavier. This is popular especially on bridge humbuckers because the outside coil is brighter and the inside coil is fuller. (On neck hums it's opposite - screw coil is fuller/looser and the slug coil is tighter.)

For the 61 set I believe the screw coil is the stronger one, giving extra cut at the bridge and a little more bass from the neck pickup. As mentioned already, the magnets are alnico 5 rather than alnico 2, giving less emphasis to the mids and more to both bass and treble.

Another unusual thing about the 61 set is that both pickups are the same strength (I think), rather than the bridge being more powerful as is usual in nearly all sets made today.

That may account for the 61T seeming wimpy. It wouldn't compare favorably with the Godwood in terms of sweetness or strength, most likely.

Still, classic rock has plenty of great tones made with Gibson's T-tops, which also were thinner sounding and quite underwound compared to most bridge humbuckers made today.
 
SG John said:
You would probably like the Gibson T-Top or Dirty Fingers better then. It's got a slightly higher output. The Godwoods are a PAF version most likely based on either one of Duane Allman or Eric Clapton's guitars. Mick at Manlius Pickups in Syracuse, NY makes a decent version of each. I think Don has one of those types in one of his guitars. Mine are PAF based or single coils.
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Thatbastarddon said:
Yes. I put the Manlius Vinyl (hot T-top type) in the bridge position, and one of Mick’s T-top replicas in the neck position in my The SG Deluxe. I could not imagine being happier! They’re fantastic! Exactly what I was looking for!
I haven’t been able to stop playing it enough, when I have studio time, to stop and hit the record button ;) . That guitar just sings now.

I also have a couple of Manlius Asphalt pickups in the bridge positions in the guitars in my signature pic. They’re a bit more modern/aggressive when they’re fully unleashed, but they dial back really nicely. They do punk to Sabbath, to Tool, to Maiden……
:cheers:
That said, I have a 57/57+ set in my Gladiator GG-258 that cook pretty well too.:)
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+1 on the Manlius T-top clone. And the Vinyl - a little extra snarl and attitude.
If Gibson had made a bridge version of the T-top, the Vinyl is what it would've been like.
 
Nice lester.
SG John said:
You would probably like the Gibson T-Top or Dirty Fingers better then. It's got a slightly higher output. The Godwoods are a PAF version most likely based on either one of Duane Allman or Eric Clapton's guitars. Mick at Manlius Pickups in Syracuse, NY makes a decent version of each. I think Don has one of those types in one of his guitars. Mine are PAF based or single coils.
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While I haven't tried the Dirty Fingers I agree on the T tops, or good reproductions, especially with a slightly overwound one in the bridge position.
DirtySteve said:
These are Burstbucker 61T and 61R. I assume they're different from the regular Burstbucker 1&2, but I could be mistaken.
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Yes, they are. They're wound differently, normal BurstBuckers have more winds on the slug pole coils, whereas the 61's have more winds on the screw pole coils (5,261/5,000 IIRC). Then there's the magnets, BurstBuckers have A2 magnets, the 61's have A5. Cheers
 
I had the BB 1 & 2 in my Class 5 Les Paul got complaints from the audience to bass heavy amp used 1968 Marshall SL-100
next replaced with JM Rolph pickups fixed. In my Gibson 335 put a set of JM Rolph no difference in sound put the stock pickups back in.
Now my new Peavey HP2 NOS guitar is dark sounding over wound pickups but plays like butter thankful have a bright switch on my amps
I use 2 to 3 amps now with the Eventide Micropitch delay wet / dry / wet. winning.
 
67plexi said:
I had the BB 1 & 2 in my Class 5 Les Paul got complaints from the audience to bass heavy amp used 1968 Marshall SL-100
next replaced with JM Rolph pickups fixed. In my Gibson 335 put a set of JM Rolph no difference in sound put the stock pickups back in.
Now my new Peavey HP2 NOS guitar is dark sounding over wound pickups but plays like butter thankful have a bright switch on my amps
I use 2 to 3 amps now with the Eventide Micropitch delay wet / dry / wet. winning.
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I'm kind of amazed that the BB1/BB2 were too bassy. They're not tight but they don't have big low end.
So much depends on the particular guitar though.
The same pickups can sound completely different from one instrument to another.

Glad the Rolphs fixed it right up. I've heard good things about them but never owned a set.
 
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67plexi said:
This is my Class 5 2001

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Always loved a red Les Paul. That's a very nice one!
While you often see trans wine red on SGs, and vintage red on Juniors and Specials, a true red LP Standard is still pretty rare.
I have a limited-run Orville in cutom raspberry. But secretly I long for a candy apple red Les Paul with a black back.
 
So I've been trying different bridge pickups out of my stash. A couple I even pulled from other guitars to try them out in the LP.

Pickups I've tried are:

-Jim Wagner Godwood and Darkburst
-Wolfetone Fenris
-Planet tone Full Throttle Humbucker and Defiance humbucker
-Suhr SSH+ and SSV
-SD Custom Custom and Custom 5 (magnet swap)
-Zhangbucker Super Slugbucker
-and of course the Burstbucker it came with.

I think the Wolfetone is the clear winner.
 
DirtySteve said:
So I've been trying different bridge pickups out of my stash. A couple I even pulled from other guitars to try them out in the LP.

Pickups I've tried are:

-Jim Wagner Godwood and Darkburst
-Wolfetone Fenris
-Planet tone Full Throttle Humbucker and Defiance humbucker
-Suhr SSH+ and SSV
-SD Custom Custom and Custom 5 (magnet swap)
-Zhangbucker Super Slugbucker
-and of course the Burstbucker it came with.

I think the Wolfetone is the clear winner.
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I like the Planet Tone Afterburner Bridge and Special 59 Neck in my #1 Les Paul. I have this wired 21 Tone Jimmy Page style. Very versatile guitar.

Pole pieces are staircase-staggered and bobbins are 12/64" from the strings bridge and 8/64" from the strings neck.

In my YelloStrat, it's a Custom Ordered DiMarzio Neanderthal 16.5k AlNico9 44AWG Humbucker. Totally, it's on-par with my EMG81TW.

Anything less just has no punch...
 
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