Fender is Making a Tubeless Deluxe Reverb!

Chubbles said:
Marketing, honesty, and quality are unrelated. They have absolutely nothing to do with one another.
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Marketing----or as I call it (and I know I worked in advertising and marketing most of my adult life--and sales which is just direct marketing) ---POLISHING A TURD ----

ANd they are really shinning this one!!!!!!

however -- they dont sound that BAD -- but the price points arent worth the "up" side of being LIGHT--
I mean -- if they were under 500.00 (like a TON of other SS amps on the market are) then I could see it--- but --
why not just get a used one of these for under 200!?!?!--- honestly I think I gave like 85.00 for this one
as I recall it made NICE Fenderish tones.........then I discovered Fender Mustangs....and well ....there ya have it
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I read the manual rather quickly, but could not determine if the reverb is either digital or from a spring reverb tank.
Just spent time searching: It has digital reverb, too, though it's not directly mentioned in advertisements and reviews
that I've seen.
 
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What i did find interesting..had a SuperChamp XD..that amp was great..put it on a 2x12..tube power kept the feel i was used to..would i buy a Super Reverb 6l6 set up like that with 3 or 4 sounds i need programmable on a footswitch (able to be set precisely on computer like my Boss MS3)..absolutely...off i go with a tuner & 3 guitars to a gig
 
here is a link to a dB to Watts converter. dB's are not linear, but rather a logarithm function. For every 3 dB increase you will double your power.
Now back to Fender, if they need 100 watts to have the same volume as a 22 watt TUBE amp then I feel they are just trying to hype up how great the tube amp is vs a Solid State amp.
So this is why I am calling this Marketing BS.
 
eclecticsynergy said:
Modeling has come a long way, and some of the high end ones really do sound great. What nobody has been able to reproduce is the feel of a great tube amp running hot.
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I came into electric guitar backwards. I didn't start with tube amps. I started with SS amps and processors. It took me awhile to get used to tube amps. Honestly, at first I didn't like them.

But, I remember my first "Aha!" moment with tube amps. I attacked the strings just a little bit lighter than usual and noticed I could manipulate the sound and feel just by how I dug into the guitar. I actually remember thinking to myself on stage, "So, THAT'S what everyone is talking about!"

I was hooked on tubes from that day on. I'm still perfectly comfortable with processors, but the valves turn it on!
 
Sp8ctre said:
Just announced the TONE MASTER® DELUXE REVERB®

What do you all think about this?
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WARNING!!! FULL-METAL CORK-SNIFFER ALERT!!!

A Deluxe Reverb needs to be a TUBE amp.

There. I said it. What's up!?

Seriously, it shows a lot of tone-deafness on Fender's part. (I claim two points for the "tone-deafness" pun!).

We are STILL in the midst of a tube..valve...er..tube..awakening that has been persisting for years and shows no signs of relenting.

And..why should it?

Think about it. Systems like Kemper are judged on how well they reproduce SOMEONE ELSE'S tone and feel. No one cares about any "Kemper" tone. No such thing exists. Just like there is no "Line 6 Helix" tone and there is no "Axe FX" tone. They are judged by how well they replicate something else.

For Fender to do this is more than a little short-sighted.

They had a winning formula.

They have plucked defeat from the jaws of victory.

I should put this line back into my signature:

"In my experience, if someone tells you something is just as good as 'whatever'...buy the whatever." TTR Member Paul G.
 
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smitty_p said:
I came into electric guitar backwards. I didn't start with tube amps. I started with SS amps and processors. It took me awhile to get used to tube amps. Honestly, at first I didn't like them.

But, I remember my first "Aha!" moment with tube amps. I attacked the strings just a little bit lighter than usual and noticed I could manipulate the sound and feel just by how I dug into the guitar. I actually remember thinking to myself on stage, "So, THAT'S what everyone is talking about!"

I was hooked on tubes from that day on. I'm still perfectly comfortable with processors, but the valves turn it on!
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cool you mention..lighter attack..yes..that is what makes it so fun..lighter can make the harder have more impact without pulling off so much stunts. I sometimes get like 6 sounds out of the same note with pick attack & slash strike,,its what really has me backing the gain down & finding that sweet break spot & matching the guitar levels for clean-crunch-dime leads..its like having 10 stomp boxes on your guitar vol & tone knobs..then 10 more with a simple pedal to push the zone a lil more aggressive a lil sooner or later depending on desired effect.
 
Are they discontinuing the tuber versions?
or offering both?

if both-- well -- lets see they been making tube amps how long?
AND they introduce and drop SS models how often????

I thought so..........
 
Trident said:
I am a tube snob, although I have 1 small SS and one 100w SS...But the tooobies are better :love:
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I wasnt -- I tried tubers -- owned many small what versions--- but they just didnt "stick"-- then that DAMN HACKMASTEr got me hooked on MESA ---- now -- Im R'rnt--
I have a solid state PEavey 112 Bandit & Marshall Valvestate they are both just so stupid good--foir the $ "in" on them -- they will be with me long time----- and my beloved Hartke bass amp (perhaps bass just NEEDS SS?) oh (and a hybrid VOX thats for sale) --
-but all I ever play are the mesas --- Subway blues for -- well blues/jazz.......F30 for metal/rock sans pedals -- just the amps are MORE than enough -- and -- life she is good ;)
 
to be fair -- I also have a small Roland Micro Cube that is my SUNDAY MORNING NOODLE amp-- it gives GREAT tone -- at LOW LOW volumes so Mama can sleep in while I dick about on the guitar lol

damn it --- I may have a gear hoarding problem ..............................................
 
eSGEe said:
Are they discontinuing the tuber versions?
or offering both?

if both-- well -- lets see they been making tube amps how long?
AND they introduce and drop SS models how often????

I thought so..........
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my friend keeps emailing me with his 67 bandmaster & 2 x12 matching cab.,its mint..it sounds..well i dig these more than twins, thats for sure..he says i need it to fill my recent amp void..what should i do...or go spend the same money for a computer chip amp....bandmaster (2).jpg
 
I have a Kemper and a Helix and both are fantastic. You would need a 10,000 square foot warehouse to store all the gear at my disposal with these units.

I also still love true Tube amps and I think Fender is doing itself a dis-service my introducing these SS amps under the Deluxe Reverb name. If they
want to put some SS modelling amps out there make a new line...and get real on the pricing!
 
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