Feeling Left Out........

[jtcnj]

Like you pointed out running an OD in front of an already saturated tone is all about punch and tightness.

I don't use my pedals to get higher gain. I don't need that much saturation. Love me some Hi-C punch.(high caliber)

I stumbled onto this by mistake with the RAT.

Really tightened up the bottom / trims the bass - what the RAT does - had a surprisingly usable tone - not stumbling on the Holy Grail, but I was startled that this is a workable application.

 

[jtcnj]

I know that Steve will agree that you won't be sorry that you grabbed the KTR.

Speaking of fifties Fender Tweeds, I need to finish the 5F2A Princeton I just built. It sounds good so far, but need to finish up the box so I can spend some serious time playing with it.

Dont let that stop you!
I still need to build head cab for this 6G2 Brown PRinceton build from about 14 months ago.

 

[syscokid]

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Why is there some tape partially covering the PT?

 

[jtcnj]

Why is there some tape partially covering the PT?

to keep the factory smoke in.

 

[jtcnj]

Actually it was to avoid scratching the cover up on the bench while on the makeshift chassis cradle during assembly.

 

[gball]

I stumbled onto this by mistake with the RAT.

Really tightened up the bottom / trims the bass - what the RAT does - had a surprisingly usable tone - not stumbling on the Holy Grail, but I was startled that this is a workable application.

I used to use one of the original RATs in front of a Pro Reverb and it was an epic tone. Sadly, that RAT died after many years, and I bought one of the new ones and it sounded nothing like the original, just a fizzy buzz-bomb. One of these days I need to track down an old one because there is some kind of magic in them.

 

[Col Mustard]

I'll add one thing here that no one has mentioned:

Pedals are fun. And so are modeling amps.

Pedals can make practice more fun than just repetition (which needs repetition).
Modeling amps can be like exploring Diagon Alley. If I'm working on something
that needs to be repeated a lot, sometimes having a pedal to stomp makes the
time fly by. ...hmmm, let's try it again, but with a bit more overdrive...
hmm... let's try it again, but with preset number six...

That's what I think. For performance, I use f/x, but sparingly.
Like makeup on a lovely lady, less is best IMHO. Just a touch can make things
a little more interesting.

That's my humble opinion. For performance, most audience members won't know
if you're using f/x or not. Unless you overdo it, and then they'll say your music
sounds like mush. IMHO, most audience members don't know the difference between
a guitar and a bass. And they don't care. They are getting stoned, and getting laid.
If they're lucky. If they're not lucky, they're getting faced.

So all this is for us "experts" to figure out, and to present in the best way possible.
That's how we get the gig, and that's how we get invited back. IMHO. Therefore...
it's a good discussion to have. A closed mind is nothing to be proud of...
It's actually a crippling handicap for a musician IMHO. Unless you just want to
sound like the same ol' same old... all the time.

But if you're having fun with your music, the audience gets this in a big way.
And they have fun too. They need this, badly. That's why they pay to get in.
Most people lead lives of quiet desparation, and they come to hear music in hopes
of getting out of that temporarily. It's our sacred duty to help them do so.
If we do it well, we might get paid.

So IMHO (as always)... anything, almost anything that we can use to provide some
...excitement? amusement? entertainment? depth? soul? art? ...or just simple fun
for the audience is going to be important. Some performers do it with costumes,
or dance moves, or comedy routines in between songs, some of us do it with
full tilt boogie that won't stop, or crisp solos, or killer rhythms... whatever it takes
is what we should be using.

Pedals are just one more arrow in your quiver, IMHO.

 

[gball]

I'll add one thing here that no one has mentioned:

Pedals are fun. And so are modeling amps.

Pedals can make practice more fun than just repetition (which needs repetition).
Modeling amps can be like exploring Diagon Alley. If I'm working on something
that needs to be repeated a lot, sometimes having a pedal to stomp makes the
time fly by. ...hmmm, let's try it again, but with a bit more overdrive...
hmm... let's try it again, but with preset number six...

That's what I think. For performance, I use f/x, but sparingly.
Like makeup on a lovely lady, less is best IMHO. Just a touch can make things
a little more interesting.

That's my humble opinion. For performance, most audience members won't know
if you're using f/x or not. Unless you overdo it, and then they'll say your music
sounds like mush. IMHO, most audience members don't know the difference between
a guitar and a bass. And they don't care. They are getting stoned, and getting laid.
If they're lucky. If they're not lucky, they're getting faced.

So all this is for us "experts" to figure out, and to present in the best way possible.
That's how we get the gig, and that's how we get invited back. IMHO. Therefore...
it's a good discussion to have. A closed mind is nothing to be proud of...
It's actually a crippling handicap for a musician IMHO. Unless you just want to
sound like the same ol' same old... all the time.

But if you're having fun with your music, the audience gets this in a big way.
And they have fun too. They need this, badly. That's why they pay to get in.
Most people lead lives of quiet desparation, and they come to hear music in hopes
of getting out of that temporarily. It's our sacred duty to help them do so.
If we do it well, we might get paid.

So IMHO (as always)... anything, almost anything that we can use to provide some
...excitement? amusement? entertainment? depth? soul? art? ...or just simple fun
for the audience is going to be important. Some performers do it with costumes,
or dance moves, or comedy routines in between songs, some of us do it with
full tilt boogie that won't stop, or crisp solos, or killer rhythms... whatever it takes
is what we should be using.

Pedals are just one more arrow in your quiver, IMHO.

I think this is a good and often overlooked point.

 

[jtcnj]

getting stoned, laid, or poopyfaced is a sometimes underappreciated point.
"Mon amour. L'aventure commence." (My love, the adventure begins.) to quote the Fabienne character in Pulp Fiction.

 

[CabanaBoy]

I read several guitar and amp/gear related forums and have come to the conclusion that somehow I am an exception, or an “odd man” out when it comes to effects pedals. I mean that I read of the many pedal aficionados who have multiple drive pedals and I don’t have any. It's for a simple reason. I love the gain and OD and grit my Orange Terror 15 watt amp puts out.

Please! If there are amp owners here that feel the same as I do for what their amp can do by itself, speak up! It's not that I have some aversion to pedals per say, because I do employ in my amp's effects loop a delay and, at times, a reverb pedal.


Studioplayer

There are a hand full of pedals I like and have used in the past, but my favorite set up is a nice tube amp with reverb and tremolo on it. I guess I'd have to say I'm more in the camp of no or just a few pedals at most. But, hey, pedal crazy is cool too and there are people who can wield pedal/effects with great success.