Found this still on an Yngwie rig rundown and noticed we share similar NS-2 settings:
Don't really need it, but wanted it... HNNS2D!
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Note: the threshold....yes....the decay differs greatly from your posted pictures....still, the decay is at approximately 9:30....(yours is at 1:15...a full quarter turn North)...this leaves some breathing room, as opposed to near fully down...as in @SkyMonkey ’s, or Yngwie’s, pic.
I hang in that threshold neighborhood often with hot P90s.
Ok,
I studied my board and realized that I had drawn the diagram incorrectly. Here is the revised drawing:
I studied my board and realized that I had drawn the diagram incorrectly. Here is the revised drawing:
I try to get the gate to kick in rapidly, but still allow long periods of sustain. This setting gave the best overall performance and keeps the rig quiet on a small stake when your amp is literally an arm's length behind me...
For reference; here are the 2 NS2 pedals that I referred to in an earlier post....
check it.... settings on each... first the bass board....
then the guitar board....
I know....you have to hunt and zoom etc....sorry.
check it.... settings on each... first the bass board....
then the guitar board....
I know....you have to hunt and zoom etc....sorry.
Yes... Your earlier pictured settings would allow some breathing room...decay settings above noon will do that...
My amp is nowhere near you
, but if “your” amp is nearby, your settings are agreeable for humbuckers, as far as I am concerned. Yngwie’s are a bit extreme, and nothing like yours(overall).
Yes... Your earlier pictured settings would allow some breathing room...decay settings above noon will do that...
My amp is nowhere near you
Most boards I see have almost non-effective NS-2 settings, which is why Yngwie's higher threshold setting was unusual and interesting to me...Your board looks like rush hour on the 57 Freeway!!!!
I don’t use everything at once....just situational things, and stuff for home...the small board usually goes out with me...with some alterations...
I noted that your threshold settings were “in line”, but your decay settings were nothing like @SkyMonkey ’s or Yngwie’s. That’s the difference....how hard the door shuts....you’re downright polite, in comparison to us. No two ways about it. I’m, at least in the ballpark @ 9:00-9:30...on the decay. Try it for yourself....go ahead....turn that knob....I’ll wait
Specifically....
He plays a Strat, with single coil “Strat” pickups....of whatever type. Not P90s, and not humbuckers...with his rig, his threshold probably should be high...I did see him play Boston Garden twice....
To be clear:
Threshold = when the door shuts(at what level the gate closes/activates) program dependant.
Decay = how fast the door shuts(yeah, how fast the gate closes/activates) To taste.
It doesn’t take rocket appliances to get this learnt.
Threshold = when the door shuts(at what level the gate closes/activates) program dependant.
Decay = how fast the door shuts(yeah, how fast the gate closes/activates) To taste.
It doesn’t take rocket appliances to get this learnt.
I don’t use everything at once....just situational things, and stuff for home...the small board usually goes out with me...with some alterations...
I noted that your threshold settings were “in line”, but your decay settings were nothing like @SkyMonkey ’s or Yngwie’s. That’s the difference....how hard the door shuts....you’re downright polite, in comparison to us. No two ways about it. I’m, at least in the ballpark @ 9:00-9:30...on the decay. Try it for yourself....go ahead....turn that knob....I’ll wait
Absolutely, and for good reason. I am definitely not trying to be argumentative. I think, that if I did go with a more aggressive decay settings, I would lose some of the dynamics that I need for some of our clean sections. You see, I never turn the gate off...ever...it's on 100% of the time, lead or rhythm, clean or dirty, so these settings have been the mainstay of my ability to keep my amp under control, especially on the small stages were are now frequenting.
Come to think of it, I am known for being very polite in general, so I take that as a great compliment....just ask @ChasFred , @Don O , @Sp8ctre and @Mitch Pearrow SJMP ...
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Alterations!!!!
My live rig never changes - only my volume level changes, but NEVER my EQ. It's truly a set-it-and-forget-it pedal-board. I devote 100% of my effort and attention to playing. Amp volume is always 8-9 and controlled by the FV30L. I do balance the volume between the clean and dirty channels, to facilitate seamless changes during "clean" numbers. The chorus is used (generally) on clean numbers like Tom Petty's "You Wreck Me" and the left EQ is only kicked on as a solo boost in the loop, so it doesn't increase the gain levels.
Sometimes - and it's quite rare - I will throw the Cry Baby down on the floor next to the board for certain songs, but that's actually a rare occurrence.
At home, I play through a Blackstar ID-Core 100 through my DAW with headphones. Practice time for me is between 4 and 6 am everyday.
I have a 1999 MG50 Solid State that my students play through.
That's pretty much it. I keep everything lean. Just enough gear to earn a living with very little fanfare....I do truly enjoy playing and performing, but I cannot lose sight of the fact that this is my only source of income, and earning $$$ has to be in first place.
That’s the point...you post a pic of a completely different setting to your own, but similar to @SkyMonkey ’s....your setting is sensible to me, and I’m often nearby...yes, slamming the door shut will cut off some dynamic content(depending on the environment/volume levels). My gate is the first thing on, always has been....never gets turned off live. It gets tweaked for each room/guitars etc...but it’s always on. I stand three feet in front of six twelve inch speakers, pushing +/-120dB, regularly....and I have to remember the words
(I know...you do too...).“Slamming the door“ is necessary sometimes....but not always. Slamming the door *will* choke out dynamic content...the decay, all the way down, will leave you wanting. (Unless you are Yngwie, playing at Boston Garden, opening for AC/DC....)
SkyMonkey
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I should point out that my guitars mostly have high powered bridge HBs (see sig.).
The settings of the MT-2/NS-2 combination are set for an abrupt cut off (think Pantera - Walk).
When I use the MT-2/NS-2 in loop B of the LS-2 it is just for that specific type of Metal tone/style.
The LS-2 is my dedicated OD switcher that bypasses all other ODs and the preamp when loop B is engaged.
When I use the preamp with other ODs in loop A, the Zoom ZNR (placed after both LS-2 loops) is far more relaxed (i.e. just enough when I mute the strings).
But I can leave the lower ZNR settings running underneath the MT-2/NS-2 because the ZNR gate is massively overridden by the NS-2.
The settings of the MT-2/NS-2 combination are set for an abrupt cut off (think Pantera - Walk).
When I use the MT-2/NS-2 in loop B of the LS-2 it is just for that specific type of Metal tone/style.
The LS-2 is my dedicated OD switcher that bypasses all other ODs and the preamp when loop B is engaged.
When I use the preamp with other ODs in loop A, the Zoom ZNR (placed after both LS-2 loops) is far more relaxed (i.e. just enough when I mute the strings).
But I can leave the lower ZNR settings running underneath the MT-2/NS-2 because the ZNR gate is massively overridden by the NS-2.
Interesting!!@@!!
Yeah, that’s what I figured you were going for. That’s the fun stuff!
Man, I am nowhere near as smart as you guys. I could never figure all of that out - let alone wire it up - and I could never remember to navigate those controls while playing a set!!!
SkyMonkey
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It took me a while to figure it out too.
I had tried the MT-2 in the front, and directly into the FX Return, and decided that using it solely as a preamp was best for me.
So I scratched my head for a few days trying to figure out how to get the best of both worlds.
The LS-2 is an amazing bit of kit.
I had tried the MT-2 in the front, and directly into the FX Return, and decided that using it solely as a preamp was best for me.
So I scratched my head for a few days trying to figure out how to get the best of both worlds.
The LS-2 is an amazing bit of kit.
Sorry to quote you twice....
You may actually like to replace your squishy NS2 with an EHX silencer. It’s like hitting a brick wall when it closes the gate....maybe give one of those a try?