Do you think guitar music will ever be great like it was from 1954 to 1979?

but I thought Clapton was GOD --- said so on the wall.
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I am in agreeance with (seemingly) the majority -- I think the days of the GUITAR GODZ have passed.

There are some REALLY GREAT PLAYERS now-- some arguably BETTER than the "greats" -- more skilled more polished more processed more ...... more..... more PERFECT....

To me the thing that MADE the GODS what they where and are was the imperfection .....
 
To me the thing that MADE the GODS what they where and are was the imperfection .....

Why don’t we have a multiple like button?

Hell, a driven amp was originally a wrong way to usean amp. It was all about being original, not exactly perfect or a virtuoso.
The blues, for instance... you can master the pentatonic, play hundreds of great riffs with perfect timing. If you don’t actually “say something” with your music, you’re just one more brick in a big wall.
 
Why don’t we have a multiple like button?

Hell, a driven amp was originally a wrong way to usean amp. It was all about being original, not exactly perfect or a virtuoso.
The blues, for instance... you can master the pentatonic, play hundreds of great riffs with perfect timing. If you don’t actually “say something” with your music, you’re just one more brick in a big wall.
Agree. I love virtuosos and there are new guys popping up daily who are technically magnificent in every way. But without a hook, a melody and something that rings out to you, what good is it at the end of the day?

As much as I think he's a miserable prick anymore these days, Gene Simmons said it best once: " You have all these guys who can play a million notes a second and it sounds like an angry bumblebee. I'd rather just hear a simple A Chord that cracks your ribs in two"
 
There are many factors that have had their influence, and why they "Golden Age" of any kind of music is gone. The artists are still here. There's so much great new music being released all the time, it's just not getting out there for people to hear.

If you look at the current state of radio, and media in general, it has all been gobbled up by monopolies. There are no more major market free form radio stations. We had five at one point in Boston. Now, we have one Classic Rock station owned by CBS Broadcasting, and several other talk, sports, religion, and "adult hit" owned by the same company. Then there are the Murdoch owned stations, Westinghouse, and so on. Fortunately, we have many college and community stations that play independent record labels and artists. Unfortunately, many places are not as lucky as we are.

Next is all the streaming services. People cherry-pick their playlists on services such as pandora and spotify. These services don't pay the artists their royalties. More of people wanting stuff without paying for it, even though you have to pay to have the service commercial free. Then play lists are picked because someone only likes one particular thing, and they will find you stuff that sounds the same.

Then speaking of labels, independents are trying to push a lot of new music. They are doing a great job. Many of their rosters will fill large clubs or theatres. That is saying a lot now that we're in an age that a cover band will pack a club one night, then the same club will have three great original bands the next night and they're playing to twenty people, the bartenders, and the bartender's dog. People have lost any sense of adventure. They want it prepackaged and what they're used to. Just like the old time record labels. They are use to a business model that's gone. The labels and clubs no longer try to cultivate bands and artists for careers. If they don't fill a club first night or sell X number of albums with no promotion or support, they'll never play there again. That, and major labels dropped the ball in nineties, and couldn't figure out how to still make money for themselves and the musicians as the digital age was taking over. The indies are trying to save great music, but can't do it alone.

Which is a shame. There are some great bands and artists, especially in the Americana, Folk, Stoner, and Garage genres these days. There are even a lot of great Psych bands, as that genre is making a comeback. They are all phenomenal musicians, artists, and writers deserving to be household names. And there are some incredible producers putting out top notch records with these folks. It's just that they can't make a living by being played only on WMBR, WZBC, WFUV, WMSE, KPIG, and KZSC.

If you can find great bands and artists that you like, find their Bandcamp page. Buy their merch. On Fridays, Bandcamp doesn't charge the artists, and gives them 100% of the money from their sales. Look up their label, see what other bands are on the roster. Go see them live, buy their merch when they're on the road. Maybe their music will eventually get played on the one pseudo rock station in your city if their numbers look appealing enough to the marketing people at the radio stations for selling advertisement. If you're going out with friends, and want to go check out some music, go see original artists and boycott the cover bands making money off of other peoples' work and your lack of imagination.

I'm really glad to see that vinyl is starting to come back (even if it is absurdly expensive right now). As mentioned before, there's something about flipping through records, and finding something you like. Then the drive home wanting to play it. And finally, when the needle hits the groove, and you're looking over the artwork and reading the liner notes on a 12" square album cover. There were many nights after seeing a great band, I drove home with a record (or cd) and a T-shirt on my front seat dying to be able to check everything out better.
 
Agree. I love virtuosos and there are new guys popping up daily who are technically magnificent in every way. But without a hook, a melody and something that rings out to you, what good is it at the end of the day?

As much as I think he's a miserable prick anymore these days, Gene Simmons said it best once: " You have all these guys who can play a million notes a second and it sounds like an angry bumblebee. I'd rather just hear a simple A Chord that cracks your ribs in two"
Yep. If my ribs don’t hurt after a concert.... somethings wrong.
 
There is plenty of new music with great guitar players and a Rock and Blues feel that I love. Is it the same as what I grew up on in the late 60's and early 70's...no.
But it's still fantastic music.

Will the Rock and Roll most of us all love ever dominate the charts again? I don't think so. Music for the masses is being create by the labels trying to sell it.
The kids of this generation are not interested in our dinosaur music. There's also not a lot of money to be made the way there was in Rock's heyday.

As for Clapton...I never cared much for him.
 
Thanks for proving my point.
they are getting paid SOMEHOW -- Metallica is on Pandora...... and last I heard they hadn't sued Pandora....so.....obviously the artists are gettin "theirs" via ads or paid subscriptions...........
and if its in fact by those 2 sources then by NOT using pandora your denying them more $ ....
I listen to the ads.....I Help Lars buy a new mansion ......and everyone's happy
 
buy 1 album Lars gets 1 royalty check and you listen to the album for....years......
listen to Metallica Channel on pandora Lars gets many checks...and ... If I CLICK on an ad on the Metallica channel... Lars gets MORE $ ...........
and the beat goes on ....


 
buy 1 album Lars gets 1 royalty check and you listen to the album for....years......
listen to Metallica Channel on pandora Lars gets many checks...and ... If I CLICK on an ad on the Metallica channel... Lars gets MORE $ ...........
and the beat goes on ....

For each play on the radio, $ .01 for songwriter and $.01 for performer. On Pandora and Spotify you need 10,000 streams to get $.01. For an album or cd sale, you get anywhere from $1 to $5 dollars depending on contracts, sometimes more. So, unless you stream the song 1,000,000 times, you're not really giving the artist any money. Just the streaming service through their paid advertising.
 
but...they are "getting paid" from Pandora ....sorry not ARGUING -- but your inflection above was using pandora was STEALING the music -- and sorry its not.

So -- I can listen to local radio that NEVER plays Metallica....ever.... and they get 0.00$
OR I can listen to the Metallica Channel on Pandora or Sirius or ?? ......and they get ...."?"
something yes?

I all ready contributed.... albums. (80's).......cassettes..(80's) . cds (90's) and t-shirts...and concerts and ........ now.............through digital streaming.........
.I fail to see the "problem" I mean do I need to adopt Lars and spoon feed him? he is small likely dont eat much ....
 
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