Do you think guitar music will ever be great like it was from 1954 to 1979?

Beatles, Stones, Yard Birds , Animals, Cream, The Guess Who, B.T.O, Steve Miller Band, T-Rex, Jeff Healey Band, Tom Petty, Bon Jovi, Mama's and the Papas, Badfinger, Bryan Adams, Clapton, Moody Blues, Bob Seger, Neil Young, Paul McCartney, Kinks, AC/DC, Troggs, R.E.M, Roy Orbison, Simple minds, Bad Company, Joe Walsh,

These are some of the Bands i like , mostly 60s to the 80s
 
If you haven't found new music that you like, then you probably haven't looked for it. Hearing what is popular and played often and deciding that you don't like it doesn't count. There is a lot more out there.

Regarding the music itself, I find much of the music I loved in the 70s-90s completely unrelatable. Lyrics are important to me. Songs of rebelion against authority, or the evil reconing, or partying all night just don't ring true to my current state of being. And many of the profound truths that I thought the songs contained when I was 17-25 years old just sound like poor reasoning to me now. Does that make me "old" in my thinking? Well if that is "old", thank goodness!! It would be sad to think my thinking had not changed in the last 30 years - that would be the real tragedy!

But I think the real "old" way of thinking is that "things today just aren't the same as...". Well I for one am happy about that! Could you imagine if all bands sounded the same for 50 years?

That is not to say that I am down on older music. Quite to the contrary, at least half of what I listen to is more than 20 years old. But the rest is new. That seems like it is how things should be. It is unreasonable to assume that all the old or the new is somehow unrelatable to me. It does seem reasonable that some songs would grow tired, some would hold up, and that some new ones would enter my world.

Challenge yourself. Google a few key words and add the word "music" to it. Or you can start with our "what are you listening to" thread. The internet is big. I bet you will find an OVERWHELMING amount of new stuff to like, and so many categories of music to choose from.

Life is a song my brothers and sisters. Sing loudly!
 
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Like @RVA said, there are tons of good music out there just have to dig bit deeper.

I constantly find new young bloods making old thrash with new take and spin on it. Its great, same goes out for other genre. But problem is people in general once they find something they like , they expect everything to be closer to that and dismiss new music...
 
Lyricist hate me. I tend to listen to the instruments. Unless it slapped me in the face, I couldn’t tell you what 90% of the songs were about that I grew up with. So when I comment about the era music I like best.... it’s the music, not so much the poetry. And in that respect..... there are current bands knocking out 21st century versions of 20th century Rock. I’m good with that.
 
iblive said:
Lyricist hate me. I tend to listen to the instruments. Unless it slapped me in the face, I couldn’t tell you what 90% of the songs were about that I grew up with. So when I comment about the era music I like best.... it’s the music, not so much the poetry. And in that respect..... there are current bands knocking out 21st century versions of 20th century Rock. I’m good with that.
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I am the same way , I like the sounds of the songs, the beat the melody, the sound of Instruments like you say. Much of the music of today, not all as i say not all is boring to me and sad also is depressing, some people out there want to listen to depressing music, fine for them , but its not for me. I want to listen to upbeat music, music that makes me smile, that picks me up and makes me happy. There are too many depressed people in this world today, and i believe, its part of their own doing, and i believe music has a part in doing that. I don't want to listen to depressing music, so i listen to music that motivates and uplifts me, Nothing wrong with that.;)
 
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The culture of finding new music has changed completely in the last 10 years. Think about the 60's through the early 2000's and how people found new music. It was being introduced through traditional media outlets like radio and TV music channels, or seeing them open for our favorite bands we buy tickets to. Music was being produced only through mainstream production and record companies. New music heard on the radio was being pushed by the parent companies, not the bands themselves. We were privy to the music we were allowed to hear.

In the last 10 years, that has completely shifted away to the internet. Now we have access to a far broader pool of music by an insanely exponential growth of music being produced from home. It's not that good music is not being made today, it's that the good music is harder to find because of the seemingly infinite amount of undiscovered bands/artists putting up music every hour. We are no longer being held to what to we could listen to. The shackles are off.
 
RVA said:
If you haven't found new music that you like, then you probably haven't looked for it.
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That's a mic-drop statement right there...the most truthful words I have seen on the subject.

I have definitely noticed that people get locked in to what they love and at some point seal off access to new ideas. I don't know why that is, and as I said earlier I am certainly nostalgic for the music of my youth, but I run into this time and again. I have friends that only listen to music from when we were in high school and college. They literally have no idea how much amazing art has been made in the last 35 years because they choose not to listen.
 
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The culture of finding new music has changed completely in the last 10 years. Think about the 60's through the early 2000's and how people found new music. It was being introduced through traditional media outlets like radio and TV music channels, or seeing them open for our favorite bands we buy tickets to. Music was being produced only through mainstream production and record companies. New music heard on the radio was being pushed by the parent companies, not the bands themselves. We were privy to the music we were allowed to hear.

In the last 10 years, that has completely shifted away to the internet. Now we have access to a far broader pool of music by an insanely exponential growth of music being produced from home. It's not that good music is not being made today, it's that the good music is harder to find because of the seemingly infinite amount of undiscovered bands/artists putting up music every hour. We are no longer being held to what to we could listen to. The shackles are off.
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Very true. I mean, my one current band has 2 songs on streaming services. Wouldn't have happened 20 years ago. The Interwebs has made it so easy to put music out that it becomes clogged with crap so one has to look for things you want.
 
There are good "new" bands -- previously Mentioned Blackberry Smoke for instance (o.k. they didnt start out last week.......but they arent the WHO or the STONES either)
R.I.N.D. -- another good example
even Greta Van Fleet.....(I know some HATE THEM) but --- to me they sound good
Drive By Truckers
Marcus King (Speaking of guitar rock!)
Nathaniel Rateliff

If it grabs you and moves you -- -weather it was recorded last week or in 1976 and you JUST discovered it.......... its STILL GOOD
 
I don't have Spotify, don't use Amazon or iTunes or whatever. I either buy it from Bandcamp - where the money actually gets to the artists - or I buy it from bands in physical form at shows, or I quite simply find a way to download it if I can't afford to buy it. I'd prefer that to giving money to Spotify. In fact I undercut Spotify - knowing damned well we'd never see a cent from them - by uploading our album to a torrent site MYSELF. We have sold some downloads via Bandcamp, but I can identify every single supporter as someone I know or someone another band member knows.

The reason why we won't see another Tony Iommi or Ritchie Blackmore is that the conditions for producing music - and the lifestyles that can be funded by music - have dramatically changed since their time
 
Spotify is no different from any old record company in that way. About 10% of the $$$ lands in the artist's on Spotify, same as for a physical record sale. Of course the record is more expensive so 10% of that is a lot more than 10% from one play of a track. Then again, a record would usually have around 10 tracks and could be played an infinite number of times so the difference is not that big really.

Add to that the sheer amount of artists that can now be heard by virtually everyone and that would never have gotten a record contract.
 
I really don't know anyone in the Australian metal underground scene or the punk scene who has received one cent from Spotify or any other streaming service. They have made money through selling LPs that they received via contracts where they forgo royalties in return for a large box of records to sell themselves or from merch or from selling downloads through Bandcamp.

Personally I think we have received a maximum of $200 from Bandcamp over the last year. We recorded our album pretty cheaply but that is only 10% of what we spent on the sessions (forget the other costs!). The question now is not 'how much do you expect to make?' but rather 'how much can you afford to spend?'
 
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I really don't know anyone in the Australian metal underground scene or the punk scene who has received one cent from Spotify or any other streaming service. They have made money through selling LPs that they received via contracts where they forgo royalties in return for a large box of records to sell themselves or from merch or from selling downloads through Bandcamp.

Personally I think we have received a maximum of $200 from Bandcamp over the last year. We recorded our album pretty cheaply but that is only 10% of what we spent on the sessions (forget the other costs!). The question now is not 'how much do you expect to make?' but rather 'how much can you afford to spend?'
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By today's rate I think you need around 250 plays on Spotify to make $1US.

The great thing about the streaming services, and Bandcamp for that matter, is that an artist can do all the work themselves. If they have the time and ability. In other words, getting your music out there doesn't need to be expensive, it's just time consuming.
 
getting heard ..... by the right person at the right time ....and promoted........was and still is seemingly the answer---
this (though not rock music) started on sound cloud


The track was written, mixed, and produced by Eilish's brother, Finneas O'Connell. Finneas had written and produced "Ocean Eyes" originally for his band the Slightly's, before realizing it would be a better fit for Eilish's vocals.[1] He gave it to Eilish when her dance teacher at the Revolution Dance Center (Honolulu Avenue, Los Angeles) Fred Diaz asked them to write a song for choreography.[2][3] The track was entirely made using Logic stock sounds.[4] The vocals were recorded with an Audio-Technica AT2020 microphone.[4] When asked about how the song came about in an early 2017 interview with Teen Vogue Eilish said that "[Finneas] came to me with 'Ocean Eyes,' which he had originally written for his band. He told me he thought it would sound really good in my voice. He taught me the song and we sang it together along to his guitar and I loved it. It was stuck in [my] head for weeks." Finneas would later become Eilish's manager.[5]

Eilish and her brother uploaded the track to SoundCloud on November 18, 2015 so Diaz could have access to it.[6] The song went viral overnight.[7] When Eilish got a growth plate injury, it put an end to her dancing career and she turned her focus toward a recording career.[8] After Eilish signed to Darkroom and Interscope Records, "Ocean Eyes" was re-released for digital download and streaming on November 18, 2016 as the lead single on Eilish's debut EP Don't Smile at Me and the album Everything, Everything (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack).[9] Mastering was handled by studio personnel John Greenham.[10] An EP featuring remixes by Astronomyy, Blackbear, Goldhouse and Cautious Clay was released On January 14, 2017.[11]



and launched this ....career.
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Billie Eilish - Wikipedia

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The under ground clubs...... and back alley bars where the ROCK GODS were discovered --signed to labels and "launched" have become........ sound cloud and youtube and spotify still the same concept it appears -----different venue

 
gball said:
That's a mic-drop statement right there...the most truthful words I have seen on the subject.

I have definitely noticed that people get locked in to what they love and at some point seal off access to new ideas. I don't know why that is, and as I said earlier I am certainly nostalgic for the music of my youth, but I run into this time and again. I have friends that only listen to music from when we were in high school and college. They literally have no idea how much amazing art has been made in the last 35 years because they choose not to listen.
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Thats me.
I dont shun new music; I was still absorbing some new rock in the late 80's / 90's - Chilipeppers, STP, AIC, etc.

Mostly I was busy trying to make ends with a mortgage, wife, 2 young children; music was not a high priority.
( I was an avid listener then, not learning or playing an instrument)

I listened mostly to conservative talk radio in my work vehicles (service tech drives to several different sites most days) partly because I couldnt find much favorable music on the dial.

Good to know from this thread it is certainly out there if you look.

I am listening to a Mountain CD in the commute / study time - yeah , thats me.
 
Dave Sloven said:
I really don't know anyone in the Australian metal underground scene or the punk scene who has received one cent from Spotify or any other streaming service. They have made money through selling LPs that they received via contracts where they forgo royalties in return for a large box of records to sell themselves or from merch or from selling downloads through Bandcamp.

Personally I think we have received a maximum of $200 from Bandcamp over the last year. We recorded our album pretty cheaply but that is only 10% of what we spent on the sessions (forget the other costs!). The question now is not 'how much do you expect to make?' but rather 'how much can you afford to spend?'
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I found Mammal on Pandora. Love that band.
 
Ghostman said:
I've said it many times before and I'll say it again,

Great Music is made every day. I find it's the lazy who can't find new great music.
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You're right but this ain't the point of the thread. There is indeed great music but it just doesn't get as appreciated, desired and fetishized as back in those days. The way people consume music has changed. Will we ever praise great records again?
 
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If you haven't found new music that you like, then you probably haven't looked for it. Hearing what is popular and played often and deciding that you don't like it doesn't count. There is a lot more out there.
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Like the poster I just quoted above, you're right but my initial question is what I asked him.

We do like a lot of new stuff, but is it quite like we used to do back when we came home with a paper bag full of fresh LPs?
 
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