I like the retro look of the new challengers. I'm not very impressed with the quality of my wife's pt cruiser.
No doubt Chrysler could have put some performance into the PT & really made it a great car. I always felt they let the design down in this regard. It deserved better! There have been lots of cars like this and Pontiac's Fiero always comes to mind. Great idea but it NEVER got the factory performance motor it was meant to handle & what we got instead was an under-powered stylish looking let down. (trombone slide) ... Waah waah waah waaaaaah.....
Remember the good old days when you could pick your motor & Horse Power rating for your new car??
LOVING baby MC LOVING
I had a big ol 454 in my Monte Carlo......man I miss that feeling (I dont miss 8-10mpg) ----but thems was different times.
IF I was in the market for a US Muscle car now--- I think I would head to the Camaro Dealer and get one......I LOVE the the look of the DOdge.......so OLD School
But the handeling, braking and overall performance on the Cameros just seems top of the heap these days.
That 454 was one BadA$$ motor, especially in the 70-71 SS models after which the HP dropped from around 390 (with low compression & hot Corvette cam in 1971) to around 285HP in 72!
The 'Heavy Chevy 454 Chevelle was another killer. Plus, Chevelle models offered an addition cowl induction upgrade option with a different version 454 (LS6) that was rated at a whopping 450 HP (some say 500+ in stock form with a knowledged tune-up) in 1970. The '70 was doing 13.7 seconds in the 1/4 mile!!! (the base model 454 was rated at 360HP just like the 1970 Monte 454).
Oh...I gots lotsa love for American muscle cars.
The closest I ever came to actually having one, however, was my old '71 Cutlass that I converted to dual exhaust and four-barrel carb.
To be honest, I've never even sat in one of the newer versions...well...I guess I did last year. I sat in a new Camaro at the Chevy dealership. But, that's it.
I do like a lot of the newer versions. You're right. Chrysler is really nailing it with the designs. Even so, I still turn my head more when I see the old ones.
I was trying to figure out why I still have a preference for the older models, even though the new ones still look stunning.
Then it hit me....
Chrome.
The old ones had lots of chrome...chrome trim, chrome bumpers, chrome accents... The newer models lack the chrome bling. They are killer designs and look very sharp, but I miss the chrome.
Is that so bad?
I often see 'non 442' Cutlass models from this era being some the last remaining real deal GM A body cars left at bargain prices. The nice thing about Oldsmobiles is they seldom made a bumass cheapo version back then & all their cars felt classy, but that said, I know Olds had their cheaper versions too, they just always seem better equipped with more amenities than what the 'poor mans' Chevrolet versions amounted to. (No radio & shoe string running across the inside of the cat & tied from whipper to whipper for manual hand operation. No wait, that was my 72 Chevelle 4 door after the wiper motor went. Never mind)
Now the whole chrome deal was a steady progression of safety demands, cost & weight savings all coming into play against there being chrome or even real metal bumpers anymore. Even the brite work we do see on various automobiles is various forms of coated plastic! The chrome bumper is history!
I will take this opportunity to unashamedly post another picture of my 69 Pontiac 400 & all its many chromed parts glory!
Even in 69 we can see a little less front chrome bumper as the light enclosures get the color matching endura treatment. Interestingly enough, it was the Last Year for a Firebird having a metal front bumper!!!
But lets look at the chrome brite work available on this '69 starting with that front beak of a bumper!. In front, there is also chrome on the front body lights & headlight surrounds.
Zooming in better shows the chrome wheel well trim, splash guards, faux wheel vent, Firebird & 400 emblems etc, mirrors, front windsheild frame, door handle, rocker panel trim & even the windshield wipers! Beyond that, the exterior also has a chrome rear bumper, antennae, side window seal, & obligatory for the period chrome wheels & exhaust tips!
Pony car with the real ponies (with no chrome) grazing behind it.
FYI. I just had the millionaire guy down the road tell me to name my price for the car because his spoiled daughters birthday is coming up & she really wants the car! WTH?? Gotta tell ya though, I love saying "NO you can't have" to the rich guy & pampered princess more than I would like to double my investment by naming my price. Ha Ha Ha! Suck on that rich millionaire guy Ha Ha!
PS. Schmitty, there is actually aftermarket chrome kits for the 5th gen Camaro complete with chrome on plastic front & rear bumper that gives a big nod to the 69 Camaro look!
Front Bumper & Hood ornament below.
Rear Bumper, rear window trim, fender shark gill trim & rocker panel trim below
There is also the retro wheel well trim & wide rocker panel chrome trim too!
I thought about going this route for a minute but the cost for plastic chromed material seemed rather frivolous. Besides that, I am enjoying the current all white look with no stripes & cowl hood too much at this time to try the pricey experiment.