can you go amp-less?

I'm an old stinker, that still plays Pub Gigs(UK), so lighter is better ,the idea of these digital devices is massively appealing, i've tried several older generation Boss & Line 6 products & a Line 6 Stomp(so fairly up to Date), but for pub gigging i never did crack the formula for just carting around a "Modeller Pedal" instead of a Combo(very often 2), the nearest i came to my "perfect" gigging set up was 2 x Roland "COSM" Cube 60's, i gigged for nearly 10 years with this setup replacing 1 of them every 2 or 3 years when they died, i kept running 2 of these until they replaced them with Cube 80 :facepalm: & now i'm back to a cheap ORI50c but HF modded,.
The problem for me with the Modelers was that getting an "on stage" sound, meant a power amp & speaker Cab(so as much gear as 2 Combos) & i could never get the GT100 to sound as good as the Cubes, maybe this says more about me than the Modeling Products, but in my defence i will say that in Pub gig world i have never seen anybody using a Modeling pedal for Guitar sound, i've seen loads used for effects, but always running through a Combo, though i have seen "One" Kemper plugged into a Diezel combo which was used for Guitar sound & effects, sounded bloody good but still stuff to carry & lots of Money.
Having said all this i would still love to use a Modeler pedal, but i just haven't been able to get it working for me, plus it would have to be a lot less financial outlay than Fractal, something like a Boss GT1000, but how on earth do you get them working without a back line set up, sorry for going on, but i think(Dream) about this a lot. :unsure:
 
old rocker said:
I'm an old stinker, that still plays Pub Gigs(UK), so lighter is better ,the idea of these digital devices is massively appealing, i've tried several older generation Boss & Line 6 products & a Line 6 Stomp(so fairly up to Date), but for pub gigging i never did crack the formula for just carting around a "Modeller Pedal" instead of a Combo(very often 2), the nearest i came to my "perfect" gigging set up was 2 x Roland "COSM" Cube 60's, i gigged for nearly 10 years with this setup replacing 1 of them every 2 or 3 years when they died, i kept running 2 of these until they replaced them with Cube 80 :facepalm: & now i'm back to a cheap ORI50c but HF modded,.
The problem for me with the Modelers was that getting an "on stage" sound, meant a power amp & speaker Cab(so as much gear as 2 Combos) & i could never get the GT100 to sound as good as the Cubes, maybe this says more about me than the Modeling Products, but in my defence i will say that in Pub gig world i have never seen anybody using a Modeling pedal for Guitar sound, i've seen loads used for effects, but always running through a Combo, though i have seen "One" Kemper plugged into a Diezel combo which was used for Guitar sound & effects, sounded bloody good but still stuff to carry & lots of Money.
Having said all this i would still love to use a Modeler pedal, but i just haven't been able to get it working for me, plus it would have to be a lot less financial outlay than Fractal, something like a Boss GT1000, but how on earth do you get them working without a back line set up, sorry for going on, but i think(Dream) about this a lot. :unsure:
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They would have to have a line out that runs ro the house PA and run you through monitors. Otherwise you need a cabinet which kinda is the same as carrying around a combo.
To be fair, something small like one cube amp or a combo is pretty easy to carry around. We have one pub here that is fairly small and any combo woild be fime there. Guitar 1 on back, guitar 2 in hand, amp in other hand.
With the Boss Katana, it has effects built in. Small pedal board over my shoulder and done.
Incidentally, any modeller or pedal type amp should sound at least as good as the Roland Cube.
Boss GT1000 woild be killer but must be run through monitors for you.
 
old rocker said:
I'm an old stinker, that still plays Pub Gigs(UK), so lighter is better ,the idea of these digital devices is massively appealing, i've tried several older generation Boss & Line 6 products & a Line 6 Stomp(so fairly up to Date), but for pub gigging i never did crack the formula for just carting around a "Modeller Pedal" instead of a Combo(very often 2), the nearest i came to my "perfect" gigging set up was 2 x Roland "COSM" Cube 60's, i gigged for nearly 10 years with this setup replacing 1 of them every 2 or 3 years when they died, i kept running 2 of these until they replaced them with Cube 80 :facepalm: & now i'm back to a cheap ORI50c but HF modded,.
The problem for me with the Modelers was that getting an "on stage" sound, meant a power amp & speaker Cab(so as much gear as 2 Combos) & i could never get the GT100 to sound as good as the Cubes, maybe this says more about me than the Modeling Products, but in my defence i will say that in Pub gig world i have never seen anybody using a Modeling pedal for Guitar sound, i've seen loads used for effects, but always running through a Combo, though i have seen "One" Kemper plugged into a Diezel combo which was used for Guitar sound & effects, sounded bloody good but still stuff to carry & lots of Money.
Having said all this i would still love to use a Modeler pedal, but i just haven't been able to get it working for me, plus it would have to be a lot less financial outlay than Fractal, something like a Boss GT1000, but how on earth do you get them working without a back line set up, sorry for going on, but i think(Dream) about this a lot. :unsure:
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I’ll address this since I have played live with processors quite a bit. I never had to bring a separate amp and speaker for an on-stage sound BUT you DO have to make sure the mixer board will have enough inputs to accept the input from your processor AND can give enough feeds to send a monitor mix back to you. I always just used a wedge on the stage in front of me. This is actually good because other sources, like vocals, can be mixed into your monitor.

If the mixer board will not be able to accommodate this, then, yes, you’ll need to bring something else to give you some sort of back line.
 
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