Accidental Peter Green Modification Unmasked - Calling Gahr!!!!

Ok...we had a decorative compass I didn't know we had....first, to test the pickups on the Von Herndon Double Neck:

On both sets of Thro-Bak SLE-101's - the bridge pickup's 'North' faces the bridge and the neck pickup's 'North' faces the nut.

On the Gibson SG, the bridge pickup's 'South' faces the bridge and the neck pickup's 'South' also faces the bridge...

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The magnet in the brand new Gibson 57 Classic Plus was factory flipped....
 
Robert Herndon said:
@Gahr - What's your thoughts on the magnet test????
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From page 1 of your thread.

syscokid said:
Wow... very sweet tones. The middle position definitely sounds like a magnet flip on one of the pups. To confirm this, if you have a compass, place the compass along the edge of the pup's adjustable pole screw side. The needle to the compass will either point to the pole screws or do a 180° away from it.
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Robert Herndon said:
@Gahr - What's your thoughts on the magnet test????
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Well, it seems like you have a pickup with a factory-flipped magnet! Since the pickups in your SG obviously have opposite polarities (bridge has south facing the pole screws, neck has south facing the fixed pole pieces), it is pretty clear they are out of phase.

These days this is a fairly uncommon factory fault. I guess it was more common in oder times. I recon guys like B. B. King, T-Bone Walker and Hubert Sumlin got their out of phase sounds because of factory faults, King and Walker with humbuckers, Sumlin in his p-90 equipped Les Paul Special. Peter Green's Les Paul didn't originally have the out of phase sound (check out his playing on the John Mayall's Bluesbreakers "A Hard Road" album), but got it after he had his neck pickup rewound.

I guess this really is a case where you could complain to Gibson, but personally I wouldn't do it. I love the OOP sound and use it all the time. It gives me a really wide tonal palette to play with.
 
Gahr said:
Well, it seems like you have a pickup with a factory-flipped magnet! Since the pickups in your SG obviously have opposite polarities (bridge has south facing the pole screws, neck has south facing the fixed pole pieces), it is pretty clear they are out of phase.

These days this is a fairly uncommon factory fault. I guess it was more common in oder times. I recon guys like B. B. King, T-Bone Walker and Hubert Sumlin got their out of phase sounds because of factory faults, King and Walker with humbuckers, Sumlin in his p-90 equipped Les Paul Special. Peter Green's Les Paul didn't originally have the out of phase sound (check out his playing on the John Mayall's Bluesbreakers "A Hard Road" album), but got it after he had his neck pickup rewound.

I guess this really is a case where you could complain to Gibson, but personally I wouldn't do it. I love the OOP sound and use it all the time. It gives me a really wide tonal palette to play with.
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I agree with you. I think it sounds really unique...
 
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Robert Herndon said:
I really do believe you....Seriously!!!!
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Ferengi is a birthright not a life choice it started very early--Comes from Italian and Welsh heritage--- look it up -- I think one of the 2 cultures INVENTED horse trading --- the other stole the invention for a goat and a CHibson--- wait no thats wrong.......
 
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