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frostyjr2

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The Keeper Of Darkness
Ch. 19 - Faceoff
Porte de Vanves, Paris 1996

https://soundcloud.com/frostyjr2%2Fcools-hyper-drop


Still wearing the same pair of damp knickers she had wet on the train, Victoria collapsed onto the dirty mattress on the floor of her room.

She was totally drained …
not just from her seemingly unquenchably thirsty companions, but also from her holding effort, her inevitable humiliating release,
and all of the other intense emotions and sensations she had experienced during their trip back to Paris ...
but a spark of hope now burned brightly in her heart.

Her...
 
Think i have song 2 & 3 now figured out, looks like the 10 songs are AI related but not anything to do with music,but what the AI concept in reality is actually doing to society in real time. No way purposefully writing a song for Orpheus but the themes are very consistent & about "human" reaction to robots & invisible control factors & the tracking & control of your "input" for AI to interpret musically & lyrically for you vs what you manually make it all really about. So, don't even have to force write, just be alive & paint it all out musically & lyrically. I guess it's a way to have both music making ways shown side by side.
 
BFT Gibson said:
Think i have song 2 & 3 now figured out, looks like the 10 songs are AI related but not anything to do with music,but what the AI concept in reality is actually doing to society in real time. No way purposefully writing a song for Orpheus but the themes are very consistent & about "human" reaction to robots & invisible control factors & the tracking & control of your "input" for AI to interpret musically & lyrically for you vs what you manually make it all really about. So, don't even have to force write, just be alive & paint it all out musically & lyrically. I guess it's a way to have both music making ways shown side by side.
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You could put it here man I don’t think it matters how you produce.
I am starting to get some hybrids, guitar riff in song out.
 
BFT Gibson said:
Curious, how much time are you guys putting in an AI song creation, in comparison to making a full song old school way ?
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My process is a bit different.
i don't write songs anymore; just about everything i do is by recording successive layers of improvised tracks,
so there's really very little done in the way of advance prep.

https://soundcloud.com/frostyjr2%2Fglitchy-switch

This most recent one was:
basic track recorded on miezo > HX Stomp and RC-3 looper,
then i added a 'session drummer' part in Logic,
then a track of compressed low end stuff with The Empress (Müb X3M six string bass, 22.75" fretless neck),
went back and refined the drum programming just a little bit to make it more interactive,
added a track of fizzy fuzzy single note guitar stuff with Muffy (Ibanez RG 421RW) on top,
then a couple of 'ambient' tracks, one of static (from touching the end of an unplugged guitar cable) and another
one of dj scratching (done directly on a dj software waveform display), both also recorded in real time.

Before the final stereo mixdown, i did a tiny bit of eq tweaking just to keep the frequency ranges of the two guitar parts
from bleeding into each other too much, then ran the stereo mix through LANDR mastering.

AI was definitely involved in the creation of the drum stuff and in the mastering process, but even though most of the real heavy lifting
is being done automatically there are still choices to be made and i have the option to change things around if i'm not 100% satisfied
with whatever is being generated by AI internally.

In any case, the entire process hasn't changed at all from what i normally do.
i'm always trying to keep pre and post prep work to a bare minimum; it's all about capturing a moment in time for me.
 
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ibmorjamn said:
When we are gone, our music is gone with us
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Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven (not to mention Miles, Monk, and Trane) might be arguments against that, LOL.

While i would never place myself in their company, i do think it's nice when somebody completely random (kinda like
some of you folks here) happens upon my music and has a good time listening to it.

If i'm on enough different platforms, that might even still continue to occur after i leave this plane of existence too ...
but in the end i'm really just making the kind of music that i want to hear, and if this audience of one disappears
the tree will still fall in the forest (so to speak).

The beautiful thing about recorded music is that someone else, somewhere, some time can get to experience the fall
for the first time themself.
:)
 
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frostyjr2 said:
My process is a bit different.
i don't write songs anymore; just about everything i do is by recording successive layers of improvised tracks,
so there's really very little done in the way of advance prep.

https://soundcloud.com/frostyjr2%2Fglitchy-switch

This most recent one was:
basic track recorded on miezo > HX Stomp and RC-3 looper,
then i added a 'session drummer' part in Logic,
then a track of compressed low end stuff with The Empress (Müb X3M six string bass, 22.75" fretless neck),
went back and refined the drum programming just a little bit to make it more interactive,
added a track of fizzy fuzzy single note guitar stuff with Muffy (Ibanez RG 421RW) on top,
then a couple of 'ambient' tracks, one of static (from touching the end of an unplugged guitar cable) and another
one of dj scratching (done directly on a dj software waveform display), both also recorded in real time.

Before the final stereo mixdown, i did a tiny bit of eq tweaking just to keep the frequency ranges of the two guitar parts
from bleeding into each other too much, then ran the stereo mix through LANDR mastering.

AI was definitely involved in the creation of the drum stuff and in the mastering process, but even though most of the real heavy lifting
is being done automatically there are still choices to be made and i have the option to change things around if i'm not 100% satisfied
with whatever is being generated by AI internally.

In any case, the entire process hasn't changed at all from what i normally do.
i'm always trying to keep pre and post prep work to a bare minimum; it's all about capturing a moment in time for me.
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Thanks for that reply, your last sentence is right where i am at always...the moment ! The emotion around it all ! Capture it while it is there !
 
BFT Gibson said:
Curious, how much time are you guys putting in an AI song creation, in comparison to making a full song old school way ?
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It all depends on how long Suno takes to get it where I can enjoy the song . Most songs have been cooking for months, they are never really done but you can usually pick 1 out 3.

So earlier this weak , I found a song buried in a mire of songs, multiple iterations.
It’s a guitar I recorded to a EZ drummer track. It’s been around at least a couple years.

So I thought, maybe it’s time to give a go.
It always does songs in Two’s and it takes points or credits that I pay for monthly.
The first 2 were absolutely what I hoped for but I wanted just a little more out of the vocal on the last chorus. It could have taken a half dozen try’s . Lucky it was just 3 try’s, still 6 versions. The chorus is , well the whole thing leans toward pop rock but I like how it came out. The song still has not been introduced as of yet.

So it varies between a day and 4 months, mostly depends on how you curate it and how Suno responds, I have several songs that run the gamut in genres just a little tweak and another and another and so on.
 
frostyjr2 said:
My process is a bit different.
i don't write songs anymore; just about everything i do is by recording successive layers of improvised tracks,
so there's really very little done in the way of advance prep.

https://soundcloud.com/frostyjr2%2Fglitchy-switch

This most recent one was:
basic track recorded on miezo > HX Stomp and RC-3 looper,
then i added a 'session drummer' part in Logic,
then a track of compressed low end stuff with The Empress (Müb X3M six string bass, 22.75" fretless neck),
went back and refined the drum programming just a little bit to make it more interactive,
added a track of fizzy fuzzy single note guitar stuff with Muffy (Ibanez RG 421RW) on top,
then a couple of 'ambient' tracks, one of static (from touching the end of an unplugged guitar cable) and another
one of dj scratching (done directly on a dj software waveform display), both also recorded in real time.

Before the final stereo mixdown, i did a tiny bit of eq tweaking just to keep the frequency ranges of the two guitar parts
from bleeding into each other too much, then ran the stereo mix through LANDR mastering.

AI was definitely involved in the creation of the drum stuff and in the mastering process, but even though most of the real heavy lifting
is being done automatically there are still choices to be made and i have the option to change things around if i'm not 100% satisfied
with whatever is being generated by AI internally.

In any case, the entire process hasn't changed at all from what i normally do.
i'm always trying to keep pre and post prep work to a bare minimum; it's all about capturing a moment in time for me.
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Omg, that song is so different, well done FJ2 .
 
frostyjr2 said:
Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven (not to mention Miles, Monk, and Trane) might be arguments against that, LOL.

While i would never place myself in their company, i do think it's nice when somebody completely random (kinda like
some of you folks here) happens upon my music and has a good time listening to it.

If i'm on enough different platforms, that might even still continue to occur after i leave this plane of existence too ...
but in the end i'm really just making the kind of music that i want to hear, and if this audience of one disappears
the tree will still fall in the forest (so to speak).

The beautiful thing about recorded music is that someone else, somewhere, some time can get to experience the fall
for the first time themself.
:)
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“Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven (not to mention Miles, Monk, and Trane) might be arguments against that”

Great bodies of work do survive time but of all the creators of music in the world in last few centuries, there are a handful of musicians that will remain timeless, even some recent and current artists from the last 50 decades.

For me, I will never achieve that classical success, or few rarely do. In my instance, when I’m gone my music will not live on like Van Halen. It’s a different scope of course.
 
So I have been super busy making videos to songs that are long overdue, This song I called “Starbound “ so it does have another video somewhere but this one is for a short video that includes half of the song.
I am developing video editing over time.
This song will be on the album
 
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