What Amp are you playing today?

Yeah, I don't do FB plus I'm in Europe so prices are probably a little higher as they're less common here. I generally try to snag stuff like that which is in need of service/repair. At a quick glance I can get an 80W 5150 head for 800 (Euros) new and a used combo for about 500, plus some 15W ones cheaper, but I'd be looking at the larger fixed bias models.

A 6505 goes for about 1K used, the only SLO's to be found 2nd hand are the mini's, which... yeah.
If you end up liking the SLO but can’t find what you want, check out the FAS by Ceriatone. I have the 100w unit with a couple add on’s and love mine. They are quite an amp that can do a lot of tones very well. They take pedals well too, or at least my HX Effects. I had a PPIMV added and it works great.
 
If you end up liking the SLO but can’t find what you want, check out the FAS by Ceriatone.

I've actually considered those. I'm perfectly capable of putting an amp together myself and I certainly have no qualms about buying a knock-off SLO [or kit], given their ridiculous pricing. I tend to go with 'the real deal' most of the time because it saves you that doubt in the back of your mind; "would the real one sound/do the same?", I'm sure you know what i mean. The main problem is shipping, which could easily amount to 500, plus whatever import duties the Brussellian Empire... eh, EU* impose. I recently got hit with a bill of nearly 300 for a Fender jack plug from the US. It ended up being the most expensive single connector I have ever privately purchased. They guesstimated the value at USD $1000... and obviously you can't argue or reason with them.

Assuming the FAS kit were about 1500, factoring in another 500+500 for shipping and tax we're at 2500. That's getting pretty close if not on target for a 2nd hand SLO if I'm lucky enough to find one. As a rule of thumb, any piece of kit that costs north of 1K had better grab me, blow my socks off and give me a happy end, too.
 
Yup, and I've been too lazy to make a BOM and do the numbers - there, I said it. Still hoping for the mythical unicorn SLO to show up at a reasonable price, ideally non-functional, hehe.

A 5150 might also be fun and if I can score one cheap it's worth a try, though Headache did mention that they're more scooped. That's often a bit of a turnoff for me, yet it's good to have variety.

Fitz, you've dealt with Nik/Ceriatone before; how does that work with import/shipping to the US?
 
For the last few days it's been a Satellite Barracuda [his two knob version of a JTM 45 / KT66] into a 2x12 TL806 [606?] with Celestion Blues and an LP with P90s.

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In the garage has been a JEL-50 into a 4x8 cab [Celestion TF0818] to test exterior vs. interior SPL.

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Russ
 
The Fireball is 100 percent balls out metal, 6L6 tubes hit very hard. It has a mean voicing that Metal players really like. It only does one thing very well. It does have crystal-chimey cleans but I don't use it for that. It's not a Marshall crunch. Very high gain tones.

The 6505 is much more usable for you non knuckle draggers.
Cleans are nice, lots of oomph but also very articulate and very tight. Very Strong mids. It's a metal players dream, but also can be useful in any genre. Some of them can be hissy of the gain is way up. Gains from low to crushing. (Also comes in a mini head that lacks only the big low end punch if the big ones)

I've played a few SLO (and clone circuits) amps before, I found them to sound nice, with good rock tone, but they are pretty sluggish to me. I'd take a 5150/6505 any day over the SLO. They have more scoopy mids. Moderate gain levels

Just my 2 cents.

Yeah, I don't do FB plus I'm in Europe so prices are probably a little higher as they're less common here. I generally try to snag stuff like that which is in need of service/repair. At a quick glance I can get an 80W 5150 head for 800 (Euros) new and a used combo for about 500, plus some 15W ones cheaper, but I'd be looking at the larger fixed bias models.

A 6505 goes for about 1K used, the only SLO's to be found 2nd hand are the mini's, which... yeah.
I like the little 6505, it's a good lIttle smp.
But since I got the Synergy 20 and 6505 preamp module, it is redundant. Also, depending on budget one can get a SLO module as well and have both amps, tube signal path and power section. Just a thought. Add a JCM 800. Why not?

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For the last few days it's been a Satellite Barracuda [his two knob version of a JTM 45 / KT66] into a 2x12 TL806 [606?] with Celestion Blues and an LP with P90s.

6cy4gKi.jpg


jKS4B9t.jpg


In the garage has been a JEL-50 into a 4x8 cab [Celestion TF0818] to test exterior vs. interior SPL.

lkjJ0Qo.jpg


Russ


Those are gorgeous! I also love the natural wood shells you have for the Marshalls on the shelf in the last photo.
 
Yup, and I've been too lazy to make a BOM and do the numbers - there, I said it. Still hoping for the mythical unicorn SLO to show up at a reasonable price, ideally non-functional, hehe.

A 5150 might also be fun and if I can score one cheap it's worth a try, though Headache did mention that they're more scooped. That's often a bit of a turnoff for me, yet it's good to have variety.

Fitz, you've dealt with Nik/Ceriatone before; how does that work with import/shipping to the US?
Nik’s shipping has been incredible for me, RI in the US. When he says it shipped I will have it here in 3 days and in perfect condition. I think it gets set on a plane there and took off here, into a truck and to me! If it changed terminals and trucks a few times it might be different. There are a couple videos of showing the FAS 50w and Nik’s SLO side by side and they sound the same to me. I know he did a ton of work getting it just right so it took a long time to release it. It also has 2 loops on the back, the std. loop which colors the sound in some way. (??) But it also has their buffered loop which works great. Depending on the kit they are about $1000, but dam, those charges you have are crazy. No way around that crap? If you can buy all the needed parts there you could build one like fitz said.
 
Depending on the kit they are about $1000, but dam, those charges you have are crazy. No way around that crap? If you can buy all the needed parts there you could build one like fitz said.

Yes, the charges are also a guess - well, shipping can be calculated, but I was charged a couple of hundred for buying a storage server from the US once - they deemed it a stereo amplifier. Couldn't argue, coughed up. The 300 for the jackplug (YES, A FRIGGIN' JACK PLUG) was the biscuit, I'm being more careful now. If I understand you correctly, no import tariffs in the US currently then?

The thing is, I'd need "most" of the parts for the amp. Apart from some caps, resistors, pots and maybe valve sockets I'm missing most of it. If you can't order them as a kit, you end up paying a lot more, plus often I'd have to order from outside the EU (think Modulus, UK) and I get farked again. When ordering from the UK, about 50% of the time stuff actually gets here and about half of those instances come with a hefty import tax for a fictiously generated value.

I wouldn't kick myself for buying or building a clone, but I would kick myself for that if it worked out more expensive than the real deal, you know?
 
I've been looking at the shipping chart on the Ceriatone website and that's the thing that's holding me back from ordering the 20watt Plexi right now. The cheapest is UPS at $170 (based on the weight of the complete amp) and as I understand it there's taxes and customs charges on top of that.
 
Yes, the charges are also a guess - well, shipping can be calculated, but I was charged a couple of hundred for buying a storage server from the US once - they deemed it a stereo amplifier. Couldn't argue, coughed up. The 300 for the jackplug (YES, A FRIGGIN' JACK PLUG) was the biscuit, I'm being more careful now. If I understand you correctly, no import tariffs in the US currently then?

The thing is, I'd need "most" of the parts for the amp. Apart from some caps, resistors, pots and maybe valve sockets I'm missing most of it. If you can't order them as a kit, you end up paying a lot more, plus often I'd have to order from outside the EU (think Modulus, UK) and I get farked again. When ordering from the UK, about 50% of the time stuff actually gets here and about half of those instances come with a hefty import tax for a fictiously generated value.

I wouldn't kick myself for buying or building a clone, but I would kick myself for that if it worked out more expensive than the real deal, you know?
Rodger that, friggin thieves is the bottom line. We don’t have any import tax but it doesn’t stop them from taxing everything else. My property tax is $10,000 a year, but…. I get, well…. absolutely nothing for my money! Too bad they don’t have a way for, say me, your old cousin from RI, to send you OUR uncles old amplifier, that he wanted you to have on his death bed. HUMMmmm……
Don’t forget the potato salad at this year’s cookout……cuz!
 
I've been looking at the shipping chart on the Ceriatone website and that's the thing that's holding me back from ordering the 20watt Plexi right now. The cheapest is UPS at $170 (based on the weight of the complete amp) and as I understand it there's taxes and customs charges on top of that.
I never had any extra charges on any of my amps, just shipping. Even my 100w amps were only about $150. (Which I would pay in tax if I bought it next door.)
 
Yes, the charges are also a guess - well, shipping can be calculated, but I was charged a couple of hundred for buying a storage server from the US once - they deemed it a stereo amplifier. Couldn't argue, coughed up. The 300 for the jackplug (YES, A FRIGGIN' JACK PLUG) was the biscuit, I'm being more careful now. If I understand you correctly, no import tariffs in the US currently then?

The thing is, I'd need "most" of the parts for the amp. Apart from some caps, resistors, pots and maybe valve sockets I'm missing most of it. If you can't order them as a kit, you end up paying a lot more, plus often I'd have to order from outside the EU (think Modulus, UK) and I get farked again. When ordering from the UK, about 50% of the time stuff actually gets here and about half of those instances come with a hefty import tax for a fictiously generated value.

I wouldn't kick myself for buying or building a clone, but I would kick myself for that if it worked out more expensive than the real deal, you know?
Too bad you're not in Germany. I travel there on average twice a year and have been known to throw things in my luggage and meet up for some beverages, discussion, live music, and delivery. I've also done this quite often to England and Ireland, but London has priced me out of visiting. I'll still visit other parts of the country, or go to Edinburgh or Ireland. Being married to someone who works for an airline has it's benefits.
 
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No customs charges? I had to pay a $50 customs fee to UPS before they would deliver my Bare Knuckle pickups.
Did they promise you a part in a movie that you would be “just right for”
Were there midgets involved, or a clown undressing in the hall?
Did they at least buy you dinner?

I bought quite a few things from Ceriatone but no extra charges, just shipping.
Don’t you live in the USA?
 
I live about a 3 minute walk from Germany, though... I'm in Enschede, it's right on the German border. I could literally probably hit a cricket ball onto German soil from my roof with a good swing.
I'm usually in the Mainz, Rheinland Pfalz, and Freiburg areas, so not close to Enschede. Sometimes I do go to Bielefeld for work, but my managers are really pushing against any foreign travel these days because the are very tight when it comes to training expenses. $0 is all the want to pay and get really angry when the factory says that we need new product training or or other factory authorized requirements.
 
Gotcha. Bielefeld isn't toooo far away, but a fair drive. I must say, I'm really touched by your willingness to help me out here, honestly. I'm going to have a couple of nights' sleep on this one, see if the GAS wears off (it hasn't for a quite while on this particular matter, though). Thanks again and let me get back to you. :yesway:
 
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