5 reasons to sell your tube amp............................

Ive often wondered what Leo Fender and Les Paul would invent NOW -- with all that we have
This is what Les invented to record 8 tracks........
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I downloaded free software that can do that PLUS A poop ton more ..............

Its a wonderful time we are blessed to be in gear wise.........
 
I never AB amps. I set each one so it sounds good to me and they have a character that will be their own in many cases.
The new BluGuitar pedal is a case in point. I set it till it sounds crushing to me in headphones only so far but will do the same through a cab. After that I will play it. I don't want it to necessarily sound as close as possible to another amp I own. That's partly why I have multiple.
 
Sapient said:
I also agree with the marketing as you say ..don't market "We sound like a tube amp". They should just roll with "Hey, we have digital amp that sounds pretty good". I think they run into a lot of BS with this unnecessary "tube amp" stuff when they still have "transistor" to get to with sound quality. The old "Just be yourself" would be great and ideal I think too. Don't set yourself up for rejection when taken another way you could really shine.
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Yeah. I would love it if some maker just said, “We don’t have any amp or cabinet or effects models in our processor. We just have a bunch of sounds you can modify, if you want. This patch is called, ‘Snow Cones From Jupiter’, but you can change it. This one is called, ‘Flaming Bee Spittle’, but you can change it, too.”

In a way it makes sense to stop bothering with trying to sound like a tube amp. Even if it sounds absolutely 100% exactly the same, some will claim it doesn’t. So, just go in a different direction.
 
5 reasons to sell your tube amp.

1. It blew up
2. It started on fire
3. It was gnawed on by mice or rats so many times, it's now undependable or dead
4. The dog or cat peed on it, and now it stinks when it warms up
5. You were offered a stupid amount of money for it
 
eSGEe said:
Ive often wondered what Leo Fender and Les Paul would invent NOW -- with all that we have
This is what Les invented to record 8 tracks........
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I downloaded free software that can do that PLUS A :poo: ton more ..............

Its a wonderful time we are blessed to be in gear wise.........
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Yup. Great time to be in the recording and production game as far as gear goes. I don't even use my analog gear and I've dropped sick dollars on plugs. Half is I think the high-end ones sound great and the other is I really kinda don't care. :)

I've developed a lot of "I don't care" mentality in recent years. I used to be OCD needle point guy with mastering with ANALOG ONLY, now I'd be like ..."Uh ..that should sound fine now. Don't sweat the small stuff." Lol.
 
I don't like that people continue to classify those of us who prefer tube amps as "purists" which seems to imply some sort of luddite-like thinking.
I've always said that eventually digital will catch up, but is not there yet, and I stand behind that. Once there are SS/Modeling/Digital amps that really can compete tone and especially feel-wise with tube amps I will happily adopt them, if for no other reason that it can get expensive to retube an amp.
 
gball said:
I don't like that people continue to classify those of us who prefer tube amps as "purists" which seems to imply some sort of luddite-like thinking.
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In spite of what one may think based on many of my posts, I agree with your objection. I hate to see people stereotyped or caricatured based on their preferences in something like music. There is no reason to marginalize those who prefer some type of gear as opposed to another.
 
gball said:
but is not there yet,
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With all due respect your "opinion" is they arent there yet, (for you--personally) however -- do you own a fractal-- have you tried a neural? Do you have a Kemper? ---for many pro semi pro and home/beginner/intermediate players its all ready there, and its just fine... and they are happy.

Frankly sound is like art -- some like Picasso some think hes a hack-- others LOVE Monet-- good for them.

you like tubes only-- good for you, enjoy them

where the problem (and the arguments, pissing, moaning, throwing binkies out of prams) occurs is when some -- cant allow OTHERS --to like their Picasso and try and force them to buy a Monet ....
 
Nought for nothing, but.......



Whenever you post this stuff, it reminds me of the reformed alcoholics, drug addicts, and derelicts with Jesus signs yelling at people to repent from the street corner next to a Walmart. Same with your opinion of large amps. No offense, but just because your ears are shot doesn’t mean all of us were reckless, and still might enjoy our loud offerings to the Godz of Rawk.

Just had to clear my mind, and promise to continue to play nice.

Also, no offense to people recovering from addiction. I know it’s not pretty, and don’t mean to make light of it. I was just coining a stereotype.
 
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And you all further make my point 100% by clearing your mind -- so Ill clear mine --

YOU John (and a couple others) cant allow ANY other members to LIKE anything that is NOT a 1000000000000000 watt AIR MOVING -- Giant tube driven dinosaur --WHICH FOR CLARITY IS YOUR OPNION -- period

You let it go -- I will -- but you wont -- you and several others never do.

Anytime anyone posts HEY this modlers great -- hey I love my SS Orange -- HEy this little vox is awesome

the ENTIRE DAMN WORLD does not have to own a WALL OF PLEXIS to be VALID -- know music -- or have a desire to like WHAT THEY LIKE

look back through this forum ........... watch a video or 2

No one said YOU HAVE TO LIKE A KEMPER or a FRACTAL

but for fvcks sake quit shitting on those that do --THER IVE CLEARED MY MIND
 
Ummmmmmmm……wow! That went sideways quick…
Can‘t we all just get along?!?!…and leave Brittany ALONE!?;)
There‘s no sense in this stuff…in order to sell all your tube amps, you need a buyer…somebody’s gotta love them things that somebody else doesn’t. Just sayin’…it’s kinda a necessary economic…. ummmmmmmm….feature.
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eSGEe said:
With all due respect your "opinion" is they arent there yet, (for you--personally) however -- do you own a fractal-- have you tried a neural? Do you have a Kemper? ---for many pro semi pro and home/beginner/intermediate players its all ready there, and its just fine... and they are happy.

Frankly sound is like art -- some like Picasso some think hes a hack-- others LOVE Monet-- good for them.

you like tubes only-- good for you, enjoy them

where the problem (and the arguments, pissing, moaning, throwing binkies out of prams) occurs is when some -- cant allow OTHERS --to like their Picasso and try and force them to buy a Monet ....
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Yeah, I've tried them (wouldn't own any of them) and it's not my opinion as much as my experience. They are not there yet - they are a compromise at this point in time, especially in feel. Some day, sure, they'll either match the performance of a good tube amp or stop trying to emulate them and just be their own thing which could possibly be better, but for now no dice.

If digital is what you or someone else is looking for, thats great, enjoy them, but I'll stick with tubes until they can put the same smile on my face when I plug in.
 
67plexi said:
I had to ask myself what is going on a Chinese Vox or a Mexican Fender as reference to a tube amp are people that tone deaf
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predictable ...and right on cue...... :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

also insulting directly to anyone who owns those type amps --- well done
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--- proving my point further.... thanks
 
Sapient said:
Would be amazing to see what he would have come up with in the modern day. Digital has its own amazements so he may have went with that. Probably would have gotten into programming then to get them to do what he wanted. I'd bet that.

I dated a girl whos grampa was a big engineer as well and had TV patents. Money too but the kids kinda took care of that. Anyway, those old timers meant business.

He may have also meant that they can mimic a tube in an on/off sense, not really considering sound. Maybe. I don't know - wasn't there. Lol

Being a programmer, I guess it's just a matter of programmatically simulating a tube and everything that is involved in an amp for it to happen. I can't think of anything else that is really in the way for them to sound like a tube amp. This hasn't happened yet but still could some day. Digital does prove capable of being able to hold and transfer the sound though. I mean, look at what a tube amp recording we can get. Especially when the sample and bitrate are pushed into the HD ranges.

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I don't think programming or software will be the be all/end all. Maybe if the correct types of user interfaces are involved. Though I have little experience with modern solid state/replicant type stuff, it seems like a redux of the eighties rack mount stuff. Great if you're in the same situation every day, but heaven forbid you want to tweak a tone knob. I think the people who are absorbed with pursuing this entire spectrum need to look at the fact that ears do not work with just 1s and 0s the way software does.
 
They make some pretty valid points, but I think it all comes down to application for a lot of people.

In a studio or even quality home mix.... A modeling amp can sound great, even stellar!
But Standing in front of it all by itself I can still hear the subtle square digitized nuances.... and I don't like that....
I mean I like some of them, just not nearly enough to dissuade me from the tones I know and adore!


Playing a big show on stage.... Loud as hell, rocking your poop and melting people's faces off.... Well modeling amps look stupid! It's just NoT METAL! I don't think they will be accepted by us older metal heads ever.... Maybe the next generation of rockers will accept them, but dang it, us old iron skulls probably won't. Ha ha only half kidding.
The audience is easily fooled, but the audiophiles and guitardists are harder to trick.

I think modelers have made some serious progress over the last few years and really closed up a lot of the gap in tone and dynamics. Especially the Kemper and even the Katana I don't feel they are good enough just yet to make me sell my beloved big fat heads....

I saw Ted Nugent play a big show with a single small Peavey Vyper.... Sounded great! And I've seen walls of Marshalls not plugged in, the guitarist with a small iso cab being micd for the FOH PA setup...sounded great!
Lots of rack mount processors and fractals and Kempers etc...

Truth be told I could get by with a single modeling amp and be just fine.... But right now that's not for me.
I like the big red hot glowing things waaaay too much to change.

My humble .02 worth.
 
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