SG John
Ambassador of Cool Guitars and Amps.
Or, you could buy the cd or record. Then the artist definitely gets paid.
Or get Sirius. They pay the actual royalties as described by RIAA, BMI, and ASCAP.
Do you think guitar music will ever be great like it was from 1954 to 1979?
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Or, you could buy the cd or record. Then the artist definitely gets paid.
Or get Sirius. They pay the actual royalties as described by RIAA, BMI, and ASCAP.
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
John, love ya man. 
(did you even click on the link I posted?)
again -- Metallica WOULD NOT allow their music on Pandora if they werent gettin paid (they have more lawyers than DOn HEnley)
ANd -- if you want I can pull all my inventory of Metallica tapes and cds as proof IVE PAID IN
....I have them all from Ride the lightning forward. (the albums from before RTL where lost in a move)
Ive "paid in" man -- I dont HAVE a tape deck in the car. so I use pandora (Lars STILL makes $$)-- they wouldnt continue (the KEY HERE CONTINUE) to make $ from ME using the old tape or CD now would they "??? -- NOPE -- as stated above BUY ALBUM -- they get 1 pmt. using streaming they GET more and more and more ....and more
I have Sirius in the new truck (so they get $$) YEAH HALALUHA
Ive PAID to hear ride the lighting SO DAMN MANY TIMES Kurt needs to come to my house and teach me how to play it .
so to recap
I bought all the albums (tapes cds)
Im contributing through both Siruis AND pandora
frankly how much damn more do I need to pay to hear for whom the bell tolls?
honestly?
(did you even click on the link I posted?) again -- Metallica WOULD NOT allow their music on Pandora if they werent gettin paid (they have more lawyers than DOn HEnley)
ANd -- if you want I can pull all my inventory of Metallica tapes and cds as proof IVE PAID IN
....I have them all from Ride the lightning forward. (the albums from before RTL where lost in a move)
Ive "paid in" man -- I dont HAVE a tape deck in the car. so I use pandora (Lars STILL makes $$)-- they wouldnt continue (the KEY HERE CONTINUE) to make $ from ME using the old tape or CD now would they "??? -- NOPE -- as stated above BUY ALBUM -- they get 1 pmt. using streaming they GET more and more and more ....and more
I have Sirius in the new truck (so they get $$) YEAH HALALUHA
Ive PAID to hear ride the lighting SO DAMN MANY TIMES Kurt needs to come to my house and teach me how to play it .
so to recap
I bought all the albums (tapes cds)
Im contributing through both Siruis AND pandora
frankly how much damn more do I need to pay to hear for whom the bell tolls?
honestly?
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
????? who gets the Money when I listen to Dean Martin ........on Sirius (or Pandora) ???????
I guess my "situation" with Metallica --- (fan boy) ..........is different than say a 15 year old NOW ......who uses FREE STREAMING to listen to for whom the bell tolls...and never buys the album .... the t- shirt -- has RIDE THE LIGHTNING painted on his 77 Monte Carlo hood........ or...goes to every show he can ........nope....not the same
I get it
and lars gets. 000000001 per stream instead of 1.00 for the CD sale.........I get it .......
I still think Cliff died to early
Im depressed now......... ugh
I guess my "situation" with Metallica --- (fan boy) ..........is different than say a 15 year old NOW ......who uses FREE STREAMING to listen to for whom the bell tolls...and never buys the album .... the t- shirt -- has RIDE THE LIGHTNING painted on his 77 Monte Carlo hood........ or...goes to every show he can ........nope....not the same
I get it
and lars gets. 000000001 per stream instead of 1.00 for the CD sale.........I get it .......
I still think Cliff died to early
Im depressed now......... ugh
SG John
Ambassador of Cool Guitars and Amps.
John, love ya man.
again -- Metallica WOULD NOT allow their music on Pandora if they werent gettin paid (they have more lawyers than DOn HEnley)
ANd -- if you want I can pull all my inventory of Metallica tapes and cds as proof IVE PAID IN
....I have them all from Ride the lightning forward. (the albums from before RTL where lost in a move)
Ive "paid in" man -- I dont HAVE a tape deck in the car. so I use pandora (Lars STILL makes $$)-- they wouldnt continue (the KEY HERE CONTINUE) to make $ from ME using the old tape or CD now would they "??? -- NOPE -- as stated above BUY ALBUM -- they get 1 pmt. using streaming they GET more and more and more ....and more
I have Sirius in the new truck (so they get $$) YEAH HALALUHA
Ive PAID to hear ride the lighting SO DAMN MANY TIMES Kurt needs to come to my house and teach me how to play it .
so to recap
I bought all the albums (tapes cds)
Im contributing through both Siruis AND pandora
frankly how much damn more do I need to pay to hear for whom the bell tolls?
honestly?
Only need to pay once when buying the record.
As for the OP, radio formats are not where you will ever see the golden years of music. you now need to do all the legwork yourself. I know you like Blackberry Smoke. They made more money off of you buying their disc than a bunch of streams.
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Sp8ctre
Ambassador of Steel
I still buy Vinyl. At least 30 to 50 albums a year.
Astral Traveler
Ambassador of Both Time and Space
Yeah... These new artists are just horrible...
Well.... don’t do Pandora. Occasionally Spotify. I do Sirius in our cars and phone app. I do buy and download albums and tunes off iTunes. The last CD I bought was the soundtrack from “The Greatest Showman” that I bought for wifey since it’s her favorite movie at the moment. Don’t remember when I purchased one before that. My Honda has a CD player. The SUV Mrs. IbLive bought two years ago does not have a CD player, so in her car it’s Sirius or local radios stations. I can also Bluetooth my phone thru her radio. I will not listen to radio if I have a choice because you’re forced to listen to more mindless DJ babble than music. If I want to listen to people wasting oxygen, I’d listen to Fox or CNN. I won’t do that either. I don’t know what kind of revenue artists get from my listening to satellite and downloads from iTunes, but it’s the hand we’ve all been dealt in 2021.
A little off topic from the OP..... but seems to be the direction this thread has taken.
A little off topic from the OP..... but seems to be the direction this thread has taken.
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Bocc69
Ambassador of Metal Health
Yea, this rite here. Today, music exposure is oversaturated. I know more about Ozzys kids today then I knew about Ozzy back in the day.
I couldn't wait for new ACDC music, just so I could open the record and get a glimpse of them. And that would be all I would know of them.....until Hit Parader.
As for current music, personally I find better musicians without a name on YouTube then I do on the airwaves. There are some extremely talented musicians out there.... id say more then ever b4. But nothing will ever replace 50-80's Rock n Roll. No way.
Some people say good music died at Dick Clarks rocking eve this year....I agree!!!
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
Bought a t-shirt too.... AND I Stream (which they get $ for) so Im "covered" then I reckon.
Oh scored this cool decal as well that will be on the Triumph soon
SG John
Ambassador of Cool Guitars and Amps.
There's one thing I neglected to mention in my first post to answer the original question. The reason why it will never be as explosive as it was from 1950ish to about 1970 was the there were no rules or boundaries. That's why it was so fertile back then. Rock and Roll didn't exist until blues and country guys started playing louder and faster until Ike Turner came along with Rocket 88. Then, there was a new sensation, and it was all new territory to explore.
Back then there could be so many diverse styles of songs from one band. Singles were the norm, and you wrote and recorded what you hoped would be a hit. At the same time, English kids listening to Armed Forces Radio also discovered the Blues and early rock and roll. Skiffle started and by the late fifties, England had its own answers to Elvis and Bill Haley in Cliff Richard and Johnny Kidd. Hank Marvin summed it up nicely when he said "We were playing songs about picking cotton, but didn't even know what the plant looked like." They changed the Shadows to be more British and have their own style. It worked, and influence many. A few more years go by, and now the world is seeing two types of rock and roll develop in the US and England. Because of the lack of definition, by 1967 you're seeing such masterpieces as Surrealist Pillow, The Doors, Fresh Cream, and Are You Experienced. All very different albums with differing styles from song to song on each record.
Also because of the lack of boundaries, you saw jazz guys like Baker and Bruce get together with Blues guy Clapton. Jazz guys Densmore, Krieger, and Manzarek get together with a beat poet. Folkies Kantner and Balin, with blues guys Kaukonen and Casady, with artists Dryden and Slick. And the list of cross pollination musical and artistic styles goes on through the seventies. It wasn't until after King Crimson and The Nice influenced a bunch of German musicians along with advances in technology that we saw the development of Prog and Kraut rock.
About that time, there was the separation of Acid and Prog, and then the whole world of genres with genres, within subgenres began. All the while, it's still rock and roll. But, it was still uncharted territory. The eighties was probably the last of the completely different musical styles. R&B has been neither rhythm or blues since about then. There are so many genres of punk, I can't count them any more. Most of what's out there now is a re-hash of older stuff. It's the gifted who make it sound new, different, or enticing. Will we see something come along that will smash down walls like Ike Turner, Cream, Hendrix, Blue Cheer, Mountain, or many others did? Who's to tell. Maybe we need something as unpopular as the Vietnam War to get people to use music as a rally cry as they did in the sixties? Maybe break up the monopolies that only want to sell you a soundtrack to their products? Mabe move in the direction John Cage did, and explore semi-tonal music? It's out there, the songs are in the wind. It's up to the right people to find them, and deliver them to everyone. I keep looking for my own voice to hopefully write something that brings joy to others.
Back then there could be so many diverse styles of songs from one band. Singles were the norm, and you wrote and recorded what you hoped would be a hit. At the same time, English kids listening to Armed Forces Radio also discovered the Blues and early rock and roll. Skiffle started and by the late fifties, England had its own answers to Elvis and Bill Haley in Cliff Richard and Johnny Kidd. Hank Marvin summed it up nicely when he said "We were playing songs about picking cotton, but didn't even know what the plant looked like." They changed the Shadows to be more British and have their own style. It worked, and influence many. A few more years go by, and now the world is seeing two types of rock and roll develop in the US and England. Because of the lack of definition, by 1967 you're seeing such masterpieces as Surrealist Pillow, The Doors, Fresh Cream, and Are You Experienced. All very different albums with differing styles from song to song on each record.
Also because of the lack of boundaries, you saw jazz guys like Baker and Bruce get together with Blues guy Clapton. Jazz guys Densmore, Krieger, and Manzarek get together with a beat poet. Folkies Kantner and Balin, with blues guys Kaukonen and Casady, with artists Dryden and Slick. And the list of cross pollination musical and artistic styles goes on through the seventies. It wasn't until after King Crimson and The Nice influenced a bunch of German musicians along with advances in technology that we saw the development of Prog and Kraut rock.
About that time, there was the separation of Acid and Prog, and then the whole world of genres with genres, within subgenres began. All the while, it's still rock and roll. But, it was still uncharted territory. The eighties was probably the last of the completely different musical styles. R&B has been neither rhythm or blues since about then. There are so many genres of punk, I can't count them any more. Most of what's out there now is a re-hash of older stuff. It's the gifted who make it sound new, different, or enticing. Will we see something come along that will smash down walls like Ike Turner, Cream, Hendrix, Blue Cheer, Mountain, or many others did? Who's to tell. Maybe we need something as unpopular as the Vietnam War to get people to use music as a rally cry as they did in the sixties? Maybe break up the monopolies that only want to sell you a soundtrack to their products? Mabe move in the direction John Cage did, and explore semi-tonal music? It's out there, the songs are in the wind. It's up to the right people to find them, and deliver them to everyone. I keep looking for my own voice to hopefully write something that brings joy to others.
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SG John
Ambassador of Cool Guitars and Amps.
I love first Aid Kit. I have The Lion's Roar cd.
Wished I could have seen them when they played in Boston, but I was working in another city.
Astral Traveler
Ambassador of Both Time and Space
Yeah, I love them too. I missed them when they played here three summers ago. They now have a permanent gig at a Swedish music quiz game show kinda thing. Good when you're not allowed to tour. One of them also had a kid recently... Or will soon.
I think that there was some great guitar music after 1979. Here is a sample from 1991...
What's nice to see is different genres of musicians coming together and keeping guitar music relevant to today's music audience.
Another example of genres collaborating although there is no cool guitar riff....
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
very well said.
jtcnj
Ambassador of the Crossroad
very interesting thread.
What has already been said here is a pretty complete assessment.
The short answer is no.
Rock had its birth, growth, and heyday.
Now younger generations have moved on.
The industry has changed dramatically.
Just like in the old days of TV and movies compared to now, there are exponentially more choices now so exposure is difficult for new artists.
The interest is there for many musicians and listeners; guitar rock is just not "pop music" now.
What has already been said here is a pretty complete assessment.
The short answer is no.
Rock had its birth, growth, and heyday.
Now younger generations have moved on.
The industry has changed dramatically.
Just like in the old days of TV and movies compared to now, there are exponentially more choices now so exposure is difficult for new artists.
The interest is there for many musicians and listeners; guitar rock is just not "pop music" now.
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
I will say this --- our road crews are all under age 30.
WHen I get in the vehicles--- the radios always on a classic rock or Metal station (Ozzy Black Sabbath ....etc etc) ...........these are 20 somethings and of varied ethnicities and backgrounds .... yet -- they are riding to and from jobsites listening to ..... Metallica......and Sabbath......
there ---- is --- HOPE
WHen I get in the vehicles--- the radios always on a classic rock or Metal station (Ozzy Black Sabbath ....etc etc) ...........these are 20 somethings and of varied ethnicities and backgrounds .... yet -- they are riding to and from jobsites listening to ..... Metallica......and Sabbath......
there ---- is --- HOPE
Session 5
Ambassador of Strings & Wings
Jethro Rocker
Ambassador of Live & Loud Action
Yup the 80s too was loaded with great hair metal amd other good rock. There are groups like Chickenfoot etc now too. Halestorm. Good hard rock stuff!! Plus old bands are still doing good music.
Priest Firepower. Excellent album!
Might not be what it was but I am a hard rock 70s thru 80s and modern fan. While I like blues 60s was lame for the most part. Depends when a person grew up and what music was around in their formative years.
Priest Firepower. Excellent album!
Might not be what it was but I am a hard rock 70s thru 80s and modern fan. While I like blues 60s was lame for the most part. Depends when a person grew up and what music was around in their formative years.