Anyone Tried the String Butler?

Sp8ctre said:
It looks very gimmicky...but it also looks like it might actually help?

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Solutions for frustrated tuning:

A. learn how to put the strings on, the right way.
B. Learn how to lock / stretch / re-tune the strings, until the strings lock and won't slip anymore.

The thing about all these videos:
Not one of these guys knows how to put the strings on correctly.
They just blame the guitar for their own lack of experience.
 
I've always kinda thought 'gimmick' too...

I thought someone here had a guitar with one of these on it? Can't remember who right now though
 
Reminds me one of my guitars was a little squirrelly on tuning yesterday; probably time for a string change.
 
I've personally never had an issue that needed something like this. Just a little adjustment of the nut and a proper stringing...

It does look like it would solve the string angle issue coming from the nut to the peg head though.
 
A properly set up guitar doesn’t need something so silly. I concur is saying this is a “solution” for people who don’t take the time to set up right (or won’t pay a pro)
 
BEsides if your REALLY GOOD --- you have 1-3 guitar techs that follow you EVERYWHERE and tune/adjust and piddle with your guitars 24/7...............tuning is for dweebs--and you eat kobi beef and have cognac while the peasants "prepare" your INSTRUMENT ---------

or

your the rest of us ;)
 
Well i tried one. I think it helps. Yes, I do know how to string a guitar properly and tie the string. I think blanket statements about being able to string a guitar don't necessarily fit all cases. The LP headstock angle is just wrong. When temp fluctuated it would fall out regularly during gigs. Seems to be better to me now.
Put it this way. My old Goya L6-S copy is bulletproof for tunjng amd I have played it hard! Same with the L6-S. The LPs tend to fall out. Butler seems to help.
 
Jethro Rocker said:
Well i tried one. I think it helps. Yes, I do know how to string a guitar properly and tie the string. I think blanket statements about being able to string a guitar don't necessarily fit all cases. The LP headstock angle is just wrong. When temp fluctuated it would fall out regularly during gigs. Seems to be better to me now.
Put it this way. My old Goya L6-S copy is bulletproof for tunjng amd I have played it hard! Same with the L6-S. The LPs tend to fall out. Butler seems to help.
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I agree with Jethro. This is not about being able to string a guitar, or about stretching the strings. The string angle of the LP-style headstock is very poor, and made worse by the extreme headstock angle. This can be adjusted by way of the nut in the manner that @Mr Grumpy has recently done- by cutting an angle the nut slot to accommodate the poor string pull angle at the G and D strings-but this takes a bit of a trained hand. This device is another proposed solution which seems reasonable, although I have not tried it first hand.
 
My Gibby's hold tune as well as the others...my observation leans towards set necks being more susceptible towards environmental changes..we gigged heavily outside in the summers..
have to get my guitars out of case & at gig and acclimate. My bolt ons not as much. I will say my Gibsons intonate excellent..But i keep em in constant set up mode ..at string change & intonate & look at relief..also set neck relief gradually over time...once set up..amazing guitars.

play alot cause of being housebound pretty much..all of em stay close once set up.can't honestly say 1 brand is any better than other.regular set up & string changes are key..doing the nut on any guitar should be done before you even play it..we was always taught that since day 1...

weird before the accident...35 years of playing....there was no negativity in scene..we played what we had & made it work..now days. .pic..post..excuses... seems to be the new guitar player norm..where is the music ? that these devices make..that is the dif in being content with gear,,,make music...
 
Sp8ctre said:
It does look like it would solve the string angle issue coming from the nut to the peg head though.
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Only if it really is an issue. A properly made nut and its lubrication works wonders for tuning stability, which is more critical on the Gibson headstocks with the steep string angles and the spread out tuners.

On the other hand, the String Butler does make more sense if it's necessary to have a more straighter string pull over the nut. I think it would very interesting if you gave it a try and posted your experience about it. Does the SB make anything better or worse? Does it alter string tension? Does it change the guitar's tone and/or resonance?
 
I find once tuned my low E and A strings tend to drift a little sharp after warm ups.
Sometimes G B e,(one or more, random) go a little flat - when this occurs more often on the same guitar it is more a signal of time for string change.
Not including when a ball end starts to fail.

Generally my angled headstock LP types, and semi hollow stay in tune pretty well.
If this product helps by all means then use it, but is really f*cked up tuning stability, that is in fact corrected by this device, a pandemic of sorts?

Maybe my cheapy tuner pedal or clip-ons are more of a blunt instrument than you Strobe tuner guys.
Maybe the degree of tuning instability or ablility to perceive it is subjective.
 
Gibson should have fixed this problem years ago. Pretty ridiculous to me, when you have to buy aftermarket gizmos to fix a problem, which should never have been period, let alone been dragging on for years.
 
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