Anyone Tried the String Butler?
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gball
Ambassador of Boogie
Is that the guy who does the quality control for Gibson, I see now why they have a problem.
Yeah it's really too bad they can't get anyone to buy/play their guitars
syscokid
Ambassador of War & Peace
I didn't either. And I think I only missed about three of them at the beginning. I even donated $20 (two entries) for the Gibson Gives Rig for Relief Giveaway to benefit the MusiCares Covid-19 Relief Fund. But on the bright side, the Relief goal was $25,000 but in the end $51,000 was donated...I would love to play them, if anyone is giving them away.....
I only mention this because I did not win one of the Epi daily April Giveaway guitars....
BFT Gibson
Ambassador of Originality
have a dozen or so Gibsons right here if anybody needs to have a tuning stability proven test....yes even on the last few years...no flaw..great guitars in the right hands
Jethro Rocker
Ambassador of Live & Loud Action
I wasn't about to mess with the nut. I did get a lube since that I have not used. This seemed like a reasonable way to alleviate some of the minor issues. I play hard and bend a fair ways and it would fall out. But I don't have one for the Goldtop or Custom, some silicone lube for those.
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
BEsides if your REALLY GOOD --- you have 1-3 guitar techs that follow you EVERYWHERE and tune/adjust and piddle with your guitars 24/7...............tuning is for dweebs--and you eat kobi beef and have cognac while the peasants "prepare" your INSTRUMENT ---------
or
your the rest of us
And your lead singer has a real well known story about him and Brown M & M's
eSGEe
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eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
Hahahahaha! It’s probably only a 14° headstock angle....with a scarf joint...but the same string angles through the nut, so....
Mr Grumpy
Ambassador of Comings and Goings
The OP is interesting, and I can see why it might help. Gibson guitars have a few inherent issues such as the importance of neck angle into the body and the nut itself - these are due to Gibson construction (neck material, headstock break angle, etc) - the guitars sound great and are great to play, but they are not perfect. Fenders are just superior at the nut and neck into body; I don't even see that as an opinion, but as a statement based on construction approaches. Fender vintage tuners are better than Gibson tuners of the same period (early...) - I don't see that as an opinion either... 
Now, yes, a well set up Gibson works as well as a well set up Fender. But, you need: 1) the neck angle to have been set correctly at the Gibson factory or else you are always fighting angles and humidity, just a world of pain (although, often within Gibson 'tolerances'...); 2) the nut needs to be right (this is exasperated by the neck angle issue), and your nut slots need to be good - imho, if you have a hard angle (and you see many Gibsons with two hard angles at the nut: coming into the nut, and leaving the nut, less so the latter) at the nut then you will have issues with strings sticking, jumping, biting into the nut. Lots of use will naturally eat away at that hard angle (depending how hard your nut material is) and smooth it out, but smoothing it out yourself is certainly a good idea. This string butler is a help at that - of course it's a solution.
I will leave with the integrated construction issue: Gibson has more sharp angles than most other guitars, so if something is off then your guitar will be either difficult or impossible to set up well.
I've had, errrm, 5 Gibson SGs. I had a perfectly set neck, very low angle, it also had a very thin neck, mahogany so it likes to bend..., yet the guitar stayed in tune and had few issues with G-string binding. The SG Special's neck has more angle thus there's more binding at the nut. The other 3 were all variations of average to poor neck angle set into the body, and they had more issues binding at the G-string and stayed in tune for shorter periods of time.
The (did I say lastly???) angles are a pain in the posterior and need to be sorted out to work perfectly (or close to...), but when everything comes together, Gibson is King.
(Fender have a smarter design though, imho...) :dood:
Now, yes, a well set up Gibson works as well as a well set up Fender. But, you need: 1) the neck angle to have been set correctly at the Gibson factory or else you are always fighting angles and humidity, just a world of pain (although, often within Gibson 'tolerances'...); 2) the nut needs to be right (this is exasperated by the neck angle issue), and your nut slots need to be good - imho, if you have a hard angle (and you see many Gibsons with two hard angles at the nut: coming into the nut, and leaving the nut, less so the latter) at the nut then you will have issues with strings sticking, jumping, biting into the nut. Lots of use will naturally eat away at that hard angle (depending how hard your nut material is) and smooth it out, but smoothing it out yourself is certainly a good idea. This string butler is a help at that - of course it's a solution.
I will leave with the integrated construction issue: Gibson has more sharp angles than most other guitars, so if something is off then your guitar will be either difficult or impossible to set up well.
I've had, errrm, 5 Gibson SGs. I had a perfectly set neck, very low angle, it also had a very thin neck, mahogany so it likes to bend..., yet the guitar stayed in tune and had few issues with G-string binding. The SG Special's neck has more angle thus there's more binding at the nut. The other 3 were all variations of average to poor neck angle set into the body, and they had more issues binding at the G-string and stayed in tune for shorter periods of time.
The (did I say lastly???
) angles are a pain in the posterior and need to be sorted out to work perfectly (or close to...), but when everything comes together, Gibson is King. (Fender have a smarter design though, imho...) :dood:
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