DSL40C Behavior:

syscokid said:
Ha ha.... I'm the opposite! If it doesn't cost enough, then there must be something wrong with it! And everything excites me... except for Rap! OH WOW... I see a butterfly... :woohoo:
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Excite - by my definition - not wanting to invest in any more stuff that I can't use... :-)
 
If Robert is frugal, I am way worse. I still drive 30 year old clunkers I buy at auction. Or, if I run low on milk, I throw a little water in the mix, a dash of half n half and a few ice cubes to add the COLD back in just so I can make another bowl of cereal.
 
So, after a couple of months of playing this, it's not bad, but it's not great in the band setting. It's perfect for AC/DC and Zeppelin, but the fact that you cannot dial in gain over halfway is very restrictive. The JJ 832 tube helped in reducing the gain and fizz, but it doesn't allow any higher gain settings.

The basic complaint is, when you roll gain up past 12 O'clock, the amp responds as if you turned the bass all the way up and the mid and treble all the way off. Palm muted passages take on a 'flubby' type of speaker break-up tone which is just awful.

I am wondering if the Reaper 55Hz may just not be the right speaker for what I am trying to do??? I used this thing quite a bit with the stock 70/80 and I never remember it sounding like this.....
 
Robert Herndon said:
I am wondering if the Reaper 55Hz may just not be the right speaker for what I am trying to do??? I used this thing quite a bit with the stock 70/80 and I never remember it sounding like this.....
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Might be part of the problem especially with the palm muting stuff. Usually, when something doesn't work right after we've dicked around with it, it's most likely due to something we did. This idea is presented very well in "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". The author actually drives himself to insanity striving for perfection but it's an excellent read on society's lack of values when it comes to quality.
 
Robert Herndon said:
I am wondering if the Reaper 55Hz may just not be the right speaker for what I am trying to do??? I used this thing quite a bit with the stock 70/80 and I never remember it sounding like this.....
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Honestly, I think unless you are doing some seriously downtuned chugga, chugga brootalz stuff the 55hz resonant frequency is going to be a hindrance. It's going to emphasize the low mids and soften the upper mids where most of a guitar's fundamental freqs lie. I'd think you want an 85hz resonant frequency in a Marshall (which is what the stock 70/80 is). It'll give you back the punch and detail.

In the other thread I recommended the Mesa C-90 and I'll do that again here. It's the best speaker I've yet encountered for high gain in a open back cab. Has the punch of most speakers in closed back applications, but the sound profile is based on the old Celestion Lead 80, and they are UK made.
 
gball said:
Honestly, I think unless you are doing some seriously downtuned chugga, chugga brootalz stuff the 55hz resonant frequency is going to be a hindrance. It's going to emphasize the low mids and soften the upper mids where most of a guitar's fundamental freqs lie. I'd think you want an 85hz resonant frequency in a Marshall (which is what the stock 70/80 is). It'll give you back the punch and detail.

In the other thread I recommended the Mesa C-90 and I'll do that again here. It's the best speaker I've yet encountered for high gain in a open back cab. Has the punch of most speakers in closed back applications, but the sound profile is based on the old Celestion Lead 80, and they are UK made.
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Your post is very wise. I am thinking you could be right. I think I have the old 70/80 in a box somewhere...at least for testing.
 
Robert Herndon said:
Your post is very wise. I am thinking you could be right. I think I have the old 70/80 in a box somewhere...at least for testing.
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I'd yank that thing out of the box and drop it back in. I'm betting you will be pleasantly surprised, although those tend to be a little fizzy sounding. If you get yourself a more rounded speaker like a C-90 or a Creamback you'll have the tone, IMO.
 
gball said:
I'd yank that thing out of the box and drop it back in. I'm betting you will be pleasantly surprised, although those tend to be a little fizzy sounding. If you get yourself a more rounded speaker like a C-90 or a Creamback you'll have the tone, IMO.
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Good point. At least it (the 70/80) will allow me to better evaluate the amp as far as continued suitability will be and it's something I have in stock right-now.
 
Robert Herndon said:
Maybe. I am not opposed to that, although I haven't had a Mesa really blow me away yet, it could happen.
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Hey Robert, have you ever been to the L.A. Amp Show?

The trade show usually happens in September or October at the Airtel Plaza Hotel at the Van Nuys Airport.

I've always wanted to attend one of these trade shows, but I haven't yet. The vendors rent out individual rooms, and you get to really crank away to your heart's desire on any demo amp. You can bring your own guitar if you want. A $20 entry fee keeps the majority of the riff-raff away. Festivities and prizes galore. No date for this year's L.A. show is set yet.

Check it at:
The AMP SHOW and GUITAR PEDAL EXPO site!
 
syscokid said:
Hey Robert, have you ever been to the L.A. Amp Show?

The trade show usually happens in September or October at the Airtel Plaza Hotel at the Van Nuys Airport.

I've always wanted to attend one of these trade shows, but I haven't yet. The vendors rent out individual rooms, and you get to really crank away to your heart's desire on any demo amp. You can bring your own guitar if you want. A $20 entry fee keeps the majority of the riff-raff away. Festivities and prizes galore. No date for this year's L.A. show is set yet.

Check it at:
The AMP SHOW and GUITAR PEDAL EXPO site!
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MOTM?
 
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