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Be a nice bedroom amp
I ,somehow, have the feeling that a 200 watt Marshall "Pig" could blow the walls out of your bedroom!
I'll betcha Kemper, Fractal, and Line 6 don't have a model for that little honey!
Or, maybe they do. I don't care. I'd love to hear the real thing thumping air at me!
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Tony M.
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I actually owned a Marshall amplifier.
It was one of those valvestate 80 amplifiers,
the one with the stereo chorus in it. I got it
as part of a trade for something or other.
I sold it 3 days after I got it. Not saying
it was bad. It just wasn't "me".
When the time came for me to play loud
(early '70's) I bought a Hiwatt DR 103.
Marshal = brain dart
Hiwatt = smacked in the face with a brick wall
Both lethal, each in its own way.
(JBL D-120 loaded twin reverbs make your eyes
and teeth hurt, not to mention your back.
They are just plain bad for you.)
It was one of those valvestate 80 amplifiers,
the one with the stereo chorus in it. I got it
as part of a trade for something or other.
I sold it 3 days after I got it. Not saying
it was bad. It just wasn't "me".
When the time came for me to play loud
(early '70's) I bought a Hiwatt DR 103.
Marshal = brain dart
Hiwatt = smacked in the face with a brick wall
Both lethal, each in its own way.
(JBL D-120 loaded twin reverbs make your eyes
and teeth hurt, not to mention your back.
They are just plain bad for you.)
Relic
Well-Known Member
The Marshall Major I grew up on & loved was Ritchie Blackmore's Deep Purple amp tone.
Here's a pic of Ritchie's #2 Marshall Major from 1971 (I think, looks like it anyway)
Ritchie had his Major modified from it's original 200 watt rating to put out 278 frik'n brutally loud ear bleeding watts!
Blackmore didn't use any Distortion. His Overdriven tone came from his cranked & modified Marshall Major Amplifier, boosted by a Treble Booster made by Hornby Skewes, & using an Aiwa Tape Delay as his pre-amp to warm & fatten his tone.
Sometimes used Phase Shifters for ballads. For other effects he has used a Fuzzface, Unicord Univibe, an Octave Divider, occasional Wah pedals, and even Moog Taurus.
I've read Ritchie's quotes talking about his output stage on his Majors getting 2 extra power tubes but I've also read claims that I can't substantiate or verify as accurate that his Majors has the two inputs cascading one into the next. From his recorded Marshall Major tone I really don't think that is an accurate portrayal of his amp design. He might have jumped channels together but his tone is too free of typical pre-amp 12ax7 style gain ala JCM 800 gain structure for me to easily believe that at face value as true.
Ritchie had a powerful but organic guitar tone that stood out when using those Marshall Majors amplifiers.
I will have to do research on this Pig. I heard some pretty nasty tones coming from it & I'm not sure if this was a guitar straight in or if some pedal work was being done. But for no,.. I've blabbed enough!
Rock On with your bad Marshall lovin self!
Here's a pic of Ritchie's #2 Marshall Major from 1971 (I think, looks like it anyway)
Ritchie had his Major modified from it's original 200 watt rating to put out 278 frik'n brutally loud ear bleeding watts!
Blackmore didn't use any Distortion. His Overdriven tone came from his cranked & modified Marshall Major Amplifier, boosted by a Treble Booster made by Hornby Skewes, & using an Aiwa Tape Delay as his pre-amp to warm & fatten his tone.
Sometimes used Phase Shifters for ballads. For other effects he has used a Fuzzface, Unicord Univibe, an Octave Divider, occasional Wah pedals, and even Moog Taurus.
I've read Ritchie's quotes talking about his output stage on his Majors getting 2 extra power tubes but I've also read claims that I can't substantiate or verify as accurate that his Majors has the two inputs cascading one into the next. From his recorded Marshall Major tone I really don't think that is an accurate portrayal of his amp design. He might have jumped channels together but his tone is too free of typical pre-amp 12ax7 style gain ala JCM 800 gain structure for me to easily believe that at face value as true.
Ritchie had a powerful but organic guitar tone that stood out when using those Marshall Majors amplifiers.
I will have to do research on this Pig. I heard some pretty nasty tones coming from it & I'm not sure if this was a guitar straight in or if some pedal work was being done. But for no,.. I've blabbed enough!
Rock On with your bad Marshall lovin self!
That would be Open 'E' I believe....depending on his base tuning.
Be a nice bedroom amp
That's what I was thinking...
I agree, it's awesome tone...but have any of you heard a 40 watt DSL40C through a 4X12" cabinet, loaded with 65 watt Creambacks at full volume????
I bought a brand new (then) 1997 Valvestate VS265 2X12" stereo chorus combo. Really good amp. Very good amp, but it lacked clarity at high volumes that my Plexi had, but it was lighter and easier to move about. Good amp and it still works. It's my 9 year old's first amplifier.
Never played Hiwatt, but the old tube heads did have a certain character at high stage volumes...maybe that's the same thing you heard???
The Marshall Major I grew up on & loved was Ritchie Blackmore's Deep Purple amp tone.
Here's a pic of Ritchie's #2 Marshall Major from 1971 (I think, looks like it anyway)
Ritchie had his Major modified from it's original 200 watt rating to put out 278 frik'n brutally loud ear bleeding watts!
Blackmore didn't use any Distortion. His Overdriven tone came from his cranked & modified Marshall Major Amplifier, boosted by a Treble Booster made by Hornby Skewes, & using an Aiwa Tape Delay as his pre-amp to warm & fatten his tone.
Sometimes used Phase Shifters for ballads. For other effects he has used a Fuzzface, Unicord Univibe, an Octave Divider, occasional Wah pedals, and even Moog Taurus.
I've read Ritchie's quotes talking about his output stage on his Majors getting 2 extra power tubes but I've also read claims that I can't substantiate or verify as accurate that his Majors has the two inputs cascading one into the next. From his recorded Marshall Major tone I really don't think that is an accurate portrayal of his amp design. He might have jumped channels together but his tone is too free of typical pre-amp 12ax7 style gain ala JCM 800 gain structure for me to easily believe that at face value as true.
Ritchie had a powerful but organic guitar tone that stood out when using those Marshall Majors amplifiers.
I will have to do research on this Pig. I heard some pretty nasty tones coming from it & I'm not sure if this was a guitar straight in or if some pedal work was being done. But for no,.. I've blabbed enough!
Rock On with your bad Marshall lovin self!
Brilliant tone....Oh to hear him on a Les Paul back in his heyday!!!!
Bad back for certain!!!!!
Our band leader plays two Twin Reverbs simultaneously. His Strat tone is heavy!!!!
Doesn't that Les Paul just sound positively badass...????
Do you guys realize that after 30 years of avoiding a Les Paul. after 5 months here on TTR, and a lot of persuasion by E.s.g., I now have a Les Paul????
I can resist multiple guitars, but not amps....
Tony M.
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I have a Supro Comet and a Thunderbolt + The comet (10" speaker, 6/14 watts)
weighs noticeably less than a Princeton Reverb and trounces it tone wise.
It also has tremolo and reverb. The tremolo is before the reverb in the circuit.
Much nicer than the other way around.
The T-bolt (15" speaker 34/45/60 watts) has volume and tone.
It doesn't need anything else and is well worth the carry.
Supro now makes a bunch of amps with tremolo and reverb.
Relic
Well-Known Member
Or his earlier days on that ES-335 before he went Stratocaster! I liked that sound better than his Strat through that Major but,.. he needed that wammi man!
RVA
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The jVM has a seperate reverb for each channel. They make 2 and 4 channel versions, head or combo.