Wyoming to ban EVs

Session 5 said:




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Electric: That's the only type vehicle there will "be," in 2035.

Although there is a miscalculation regarding tailpipe VS power plant greenhouse gasses...the gas vehicle is more efficient than electric because of losses in the electrical distribution systems....
Something that has been overlooked based on assumptions.
Somebody thought electricity was 100% efficient...... it is far from that.

The focus should have been: generating power from all non fuel sources.... first.

The current plan is electric cars =more power plants= more pollution.

so in that respect ---------the cart is before the horse literally.
 
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Session 5 said:




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Nothing is actually banned.

From the article:

"However, as with everything, the devil is always in the details. Once you read through the resolution and get to sections one and two at the bottom, you can see this is more of a symbolic gesture than an outright ban. See below:

  • Section 1. That the legislature encourages and expresses as a goal that the sale of new electric vehicles in the state of Wyoming be phased out by 2035.
  • Section 2. That the legislature encourages Wyoming's industries and citizens to limit the sale and purchase of new electric vehicles in Wyoming with a goal of phasing out the sale of new electric vehicles in Wyoming by 2035."
So, this just expresses a "goal" and an "encouragement".
 
I’m not anti EV. But there are still things to work out for sure. Visiting Maui this week. There’s a road to the top of the summit in the National Park. EV’s can’t make it to the top on a charge. That’s a problem.
 
Good for them !! Maybe they should just put all gas guzzling.motor building car freaks in our own state out there & let us enjoy our right to drive anything we want..hey how much resources do they use up charging..building batteries..oh..you plug in a wall its harmless... no issues. yep true story..the news said so
 
If I lived in Wyoming I'd be pissed that some stooge is wasting taxpayer dollars with this ridiculous, misguided grandstanding.
 
until the tech gets way better driving an electric up here is flat out life and death dangerous. When it gets -35 and you need to drive 50km to work, can you even make it? and what if you don't? Remote areas, not a whole lot of traffic up here.

current batteries don't have hardly a third the staying power up here as they do in Cali.
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
The current plan is electric cars =more power plants= more pollution.
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As long as the number of cars will remain constant. But will it? There is actually not enough Litium available, and this will remain the case even if Germay starts to use their large source of Lituim (the Rhein river). There is actually some indication that cars will be de facto become reserved for the rich: the smaller models are more and more disappearing from the market. Which will make cars unaffordable for the poor (in Germany already a quarter of the population, tendency growing quite rapidly).
 
bea said:
As long as the number of cars will remain constant. But will it? There is actually not enough Litium available, and this will remain the case even if Germay starts to use their large source of Lituim (the Rhein river). There is actually some indication that cars will be de facto become reserved for the rich: the smaller models are more and more disappearing from the market. Which will make cars unaffordable for the poor (in Germany already a quarter of the population, tendency growing quite rapidly).
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Yep, there is only so much rare earth metals on this third rock from the sun.


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Don O said:
Yep, there is only so much rare earth metals on this third rock from the sun.
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But, that isn't the only option. Hydrogen fuel cells are probably the better solution.

Even with the move toward more electric vehicles, one-time use of lithium is not necessarily inevitable. It is simply a non sequitir to think so. The move toward electric is fostering the development of new economic opportunity with the emergence of new startups focused on the secondary markets, such as recycling.

Of course, the naysayers will talk about the current difficulty with recycling lithium batteries, but research into improved recycling continues.

New and rapid implementation of new technologies is always fraught with initial inefficiencies and waste. But, as the technology matures, so do advancements in efficiencies and secondary technologies. This is the way these things always go.

The internal combustion engine is a perfect example of this. Just think about it's beginning to now. Almost no comparison.
 
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