When Stratocaster Nuts Drive You Nuts - Keeping The 6-Screw Fender Tremolo In Tune:

Beagle said:
It's the "cheap jap junk" bit that gets me. Fender get their machine heads and bridges from Taiwan. Gotoh have always been top quality.
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Beagle you have a point, but we also are not comparing apples to apples in the case of yours vs Robert's. Robert does have Gotoh's but they are also a copy of Kluson type BOX type tuners. Yours are a sealed type.

Reliability and durability and accuracy will be determined in time. This is what I object to in Robert's Fender guy's comment. How does that guy know Robert's tuners are junk or will be the fly in the oinment at this juncture. They are brand new, no wear, and if all is set up right, show no slop etc, they should function fine. To make a blanket statement is not a solid business model.


PS In case anyone misses it in an upcoming set of posts between Beagle and me, I was mistaking Session 5's Tele Gotoh tuner pic as one I thought Beagle posted....
 
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heltershelton said:
wow....dont think ive ever broken a pick before. i used the green tortex until 3 or 4 years ago.....now i use the jazzIII XLs.
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Beagle said:
Me either, not in over fifty years...
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On some songs, you really have to saw away at the guitar more than others. One such song would be Motorhead's Ace of Spades. I find that when i really hit the strings hard, I get more gain, so during a performance I just get lost in the saturation and I am always pushing everything for more.

https://soundcloud.com/id%3Drobert-h-herndon%252Fvon-herndon-ace-of-spades-mix2a-07192018%3Btrack_id%3D474133134
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
Beagle you have a point, but we also are not comparing apples to apples in the case of yours vs Robert's. Robert does have Gotoh's but they are also a copy of Kluson type BOX type tuners. Yours are a sealed type.

Reliability and durability and accuracy will be determined in time. This is what I object to in Robert's Fender guy's comment. How does that guy know Robert's tuners are junk or will be the fly in the oinment at this juncture. They are brand new, no wear, and if all is set up right, show not slop etc, they should function fine. To make a blanket statement is not a solid business model.
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No, mine are the same SD 91 tuners, on 3 guitars, just not gold. I buy them because they are the best tuners around. (Oh, and I'm a trained engineer by the way. I can tell what's well made and what's not).
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
Beagle you have a point, but we also are not comparing apples to apples in the case of yours vs Robert's. Robert does have Gotoh's but they are also a copy of Kluson type BOX type tuners. Yours are a sealed type.

Reliability and durability and accuracy will be determined in time. This is what I object to in Robert's Fender guy's comment. How does that guy know Robert's tuners are junk or will be the fly in the oinment at this juncture. They are brand new, no wear, and if all is set up right, show no slop etc, they should function fine. To make a blanket statement is not a solid business model.
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i never listen to people who say this or that sucks for the sole reason it was made in this or that country.
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
Beagle you have a point, but we also are not comparing apples to apples in the case of yours vs Robert's. Robert does have Gotoh's but they are also a copy of Kluson type BOX type tuners. Yours are a sealed type.

Reliability and durability and accuracy will be determined in time. This is what I object to in Robert's Fender guy's comment. How does that guy know Robert's tuners are junk or will be the fly in the oinment at this juncture. They are brand new, no wear, and if all is set up right, show not slop etc, they should function fine. To make a blanket statement is not a solid business model.
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@chilipeppermaniac - Good point. I sent the Fender guy several photos and he saw the Gotoh SD-91's and their package. He said that I would need to "start by getting rid of the cheap jap junk tuners" going forward. Now, I bought these Gotoh's from Amplified parts in Arizona, so i try to buy only from authorized dealers to avoid knock-offs. I think that perhaps it's a "USA only" mindset, which is good, but I have found Gotoh to be well crafted, so I just stopped at that point and said, "Well, I guess I gotta fix it myself if I wanna keep my golden keys..."
 
Beagle said:
No, mine are the same SD 91 tuners, on 3 guitars, just not gold. I buy them because they are the best tuners around. (Oh, and I'm a trained engineer by the way. I can tell what's well made and what's not).
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This was the pic I was remembering which came later in the other thread. I looked at prior posts before this one, and I think I now see those SD91's pictured at that time.



Post 67 in the Settings thread has the SD91 pics but was mentioning the Tusq nut and not the tuners, so I did not connect the dots.

The Graphtech Tusq nut on my old ST54 is years old, never had any problems with it
 
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@heltershelton - I have been asked what song really demonstrates my tone and style and I would have to say it is this cover of Rory Gallagher's 1987 hit 'Road To Hell.' This is my usual drummer (Ffej Rednil) and I with me playing all guitars and bass. This is also the very first song that I engineered, mixed and mastered myself. Some have pointed out that the guitar is too loud and in your face, but that's really how I play live, so I tried to capture that in this studio version:

https://soundcloud.com/id%3Drobert-h-herndon%252Froad-to-hell-rory-gallagher-cover-02252019%3Btrack_id%3D581453793
 
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