We’ve All Just Been Pwned! The Theorbo.

@chilipeppermaniac, @Bear R, @smitty_p

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♫♪♫♪ "Thou knoweth thee desireth indeed for to lie it down...♪♫♪♫....alas but now....♪♫♪♫.... and betimes...♪♫♪♫
 
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DonP said:
And we moan about neck dive on an SG!
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So, Don...

She says in the video that she sometimes takes that on the Tube in London.

Are you anywhere near there?

If so, you’ve gotta keep an eye out for her...and get pics!
 
smitty_p said:
So, Don...

She says in the video that she sometimes takes that on the Tube in London.

Are you anywhere near there?

If so, you’ve gotta keep an eye out for her...and get pics!
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Yep, I use the tube all the time - never seen her but I will say hi if I ever do.
 
Robert Herndon said:
Sir Floyd Rosicrucian - ancestor of Floyd Rose - contemplates how to live forever in the minds of man by designing a tremolo - a device revealed to him by a demon in a dream - that will cause aggravation for centuries...

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That does it, I have to get a Floyd. I seriously can't figure out what so much fuss is all about how they are such troubles.
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
That does it, I have to get a Floyd. I seriously can't figure out what so much fuss is all about how they are such troubles.
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It all depends on your attitude towards them. They are more work to set up initially. If you don’t have the Floyd intonation tool, it takes more time to set up the intonation.

Stringing is more of an effort, too. You clip the ball end off the string and clamp it into the bridge. You do have to be careful when loosening the string clamp at the bridge. If you open it too far, the little clamping blocks can fall out (don’t ask how I know this!).

Just about anything you do with it, other than adjusting the fine tuners, requires an Allen wrench.

As much as I like them, I do understand peoples’ complaints with them.

So, your attitude toward tinkering with things like this really determines if you will like or hate it. The product, itself, performs well.

I’ve found that mine is incredibly stable once set up right. I can drop the bar until the strings go completely slack and the strings will return to perfect pitch.

Of course, as with ALL vibratos, this assumes the strings are done stretching out.
 
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smitty_p said:
It all depends on your attitude towards them. They can be more work to set up initially. If you don’t have the Floyd intonation tool, it takes more time to set up the intonation.

Stringing is more of an effort, too. You clip the ball end off the string and clamp it into the bridge. You do have to be careful when loosening the string clamp at the bridge. If you open it too far, the little clamping blocks can fall out (don’t ask how I know this!).

Just about anything you do with it, other than adjusting the fine tuners, requires an Allen wrench.

So, I do understand peoples’ complaints with them.

But, I’ve found that mine is incredibly stable once set up right. I can drop the bar until the strings go completely slack and the strings will return to perfect pitch.

Of course, as with ALL vibratos, this assumes the strings are done stretching out.
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HAHA I knew all that. But it seems trivial especially for technically adept folk such as ourselves. I would be more frustrated, perplexed, pissed off over things like modeling amps, guitar pedals, microphones, software and hardware for recording and engineering etc than I would a simple Floyd.
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
HAHA I knew all that. But it seems trivial especially for technically adept folk such as ourselves. I would be more frustrated, perplexed, pissed off over things like modeling amps, guitar pedals, microphones, software and hardware for recording and engineering etc than I would a simple Floyd.
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My apologies. I didn’t get that you were being facetious!

My bad.

I can say, there’s definitely more to consider. If I had to replace a broken string, I’d need both a wire cutters and an Allen wrench, and it would take longer.

So, you don’t want to go on stage if your strings are suspect!
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
That does it, I have to get a Floyd. I seriously can't figure out what so much fuss is all about how they are such troubles.
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smitty_p said:
It all depends on your attitude towards them. They can be more work to set up initially. If you don’t have the Floyd intonation tool, it takes more time to set up the intonation.

Stringing is more of an effort, too. You clip the ball end off the string and clamp it into the bridge. You do have to be careful when loosening the string clamp at the bridge. If you open it too far, the little clamping blocks can fall out (don’t ask how I know this!).

Just about anything you do with it, other than adjusting the fine tuners, requires an Allen wrench.

So, I do understand peoples’ complaints with them.

But, I’ve found that mine is incredibly stable once set up right. I can drop the bar until the strings go completely slack and the strings will return to perfect pitch.

Of course, as with ALL vibratos, this assumes the strings are done stretching out.
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I set them up frequently for others and I will agree the tool is a Godsend for moving the saddles. I have tried - many times - to bond with a Floyd, but after many tries - including my custom built Ibanez Destroyer Replica - I just couldn't wait to get rid of it. While I admire the expressiveness that can come from the system, it doesn't work for me. I play very hard and I constantly push the guitar sharp with a Floyd. I also frequently bend one string quite dramatically, while fretting adjacent strings in a relaxed state. This always results in playing out of pitch.

I have also gotten quite fond of pulling any of my three guitars out of their case - my 2016 Gibson SG, my 2016 Gibson Les Paul and my Von Herndon Double Neck - and having them always in near perfect tune. Despite having a fantastic Charvel and a Schecter with Floyds on them, The tuning issues - especially complete and total loss of tuning in the event you break a string live - just made me hate them...


Here's my completed Ibanez Destroyer DT-555-FR Replica

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chilipeppermaniac said:
Makes having backup Floyd guitars seem a wise move.
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I suppose that would be wise, but I just want nothing more to do with them....I stick with simple....just these guitars and that's it...

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For the same reason some guy's can't express themselves without a Floyd, I cannot express myself and/or play with complete abandon with a Floyd, so I feel self conscious and handicapped when playing a guitar equipped with one....I've actually had internal conversations with myself like..."Better not do that wild step and a half bend on the 'b' with the 'e' fretted relaxed, during the solo because it will pull everything out...."

I tend to play really, really harshly and I bend way, way over-pitch in a lot of my self-composed solos, just for dramatic effect, then come in for a landing on pitch. I just can't do that with a Floyd. I play like I have 3 fingers bandaged up...

I'm not against grabbing one off the wall in the studio for an effect when needed, but I could never - ever - trust one for daily work...and for me, it really is all about trust and reliability. That's my #1 concern...
 
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