Von Herndon Double Neck:

Being able to modify your tone with an EQ does not mean the pickup placement isn’t contributing to the darker tone when played without EQ.

After all, tweaking tone is what an EQ is for!

That’s not to say there isn’t more at play. The pickup design contributes, as well. But that doesn’t mean it is defective.

Personally, I don’t think there is really anything wrong with your guitar. It’s just that you’ve embarked on a new tonal requirement since you got it.

An equalizer is a good tool. I had forgotten you had one. Use it where you need it!
 
smitty_p said:
Being able to modify your tone with an EQ does not mean the pickup placement isn’t contributing to the darker tone when played without EQ.

After all, tweaking tone is what an EQ is for!

That’s not to say there isn’t more at play. The pickup design contributes, as well. But that doesn’t mean it is defective.

Personally, I don’t think there is really anything wrong with your guitar. It’s just that you’ve embarked on a new tonal requirement since you got it.

An equalizer is a good tool. I had forgotten you had one. Use it where you need it!
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I really am against using pedals, so this was just an experiment. I have the 1meg pot and cap coming , plus as an uncovered bridge pickup. My hope is to get this tone without an EQ....
 
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Robert Herndon said:
I really am against using pedals, so this was just an experiment. I have the 1meg pot and cap coming , plus as an uncovered bridge pickup. My hope is to get this tone without an EQ....
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I understand, but think of it this way.

You’re already using a crude 3-band equalizer. It’s the Bass, Middle, and Treble control section on your amp. An EQ pedal is just a more precise and accurate version of the same idea.

If you don’t want to use a pedal, put an EQ in a rack.
 
smitty_p said:
I understand, but think of it this way.

You’re already using a crude 3-band equalizer. It’s the Bass, Middle, and Treble control section on your amp. An EQ pedal is just a more precise and accurate version of the same idea.

If you don’t want to use a pedal, put an EQ in a rack.
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I wish you lived closer. You should hear these two guitars in person...
 
Very close to a basic inverted V (inverted frown) setting, except for the 100hz & 6.4khz sliders. Great that you could EQ it out. Cheers
 
Robert Herndon said:
My goal now is to correct it to such a degree that the EQ is not needed.
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I think trying to achieve your sound with as little additional electronic help as possible is a good goal. I do get it.

But, there may come a point where you find you just can’t get what you want with simple pot and capacitor swaps on your guitar. None of us can predict that something as simple as a 1 Meg pot and a .01 uF cap, for example, will get you what you want. The inductance and resistance of the pickup come into play, too.

I may be mistaken, but if I’m following things correctly, from what you’ve said here and other threads, it almost sounds like your SG is producing a sound closer to what you want, now. Maybe, use that guitar as your main axe and use the double-neck for other purposes?

That being said, equalization is a pretty run-of-the-mill practice.
 
smitty_p said:
I think trying to achieve your sound with as little additional electronic help as possible is a good goal. I do get it.

But, there may come a point where you find you just can’t get what you want with simple pot and capacitor swaps on your guitar. None of us can predict that something as simple as a 1 Meg pot and a .01 uF cap, for example, will get you what you want. The inductance and resistance of the pickup come into play, too.

I may be mistaken, but if I’m following things correctly, from what you’ve said here and other threads, it almost sounds like your SG is producing a sound closer to what you want, now. Maybe, use that guitar as your main axe and use the double-neck for other purposes?

That being said, equalization is a pretty run-of-the-mill practice.
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A pickup swap is coming too. The goal is to be able to switch guitars with re-EQ-ing the rig...
 
Robert Herndon said:
And so, it would seem, when one least expects it, good things come from a very unlikely source. I have been seriously thinking about uncovering the pickups on the six string side for a while now, and likely going with a hotter pickup in the bridge. But, I haven't found anything that I thought would be a "good fit" tonally speaking and work with the oddball 2..700" bridge post to adjustment screw spacing.

Tonight, one of our esteemed colleagues herein offered me a double black bobbin, hand wound humbucker of such an interesting configuration, that I became immediately intrigued. Double-Black Bobbins, Nickel-Silver Baseplate, Vintage Two-Conductor Wiring. This pickup is a Kevin Taylor hand wound 50mm replica of EVH's modified ES-335 PAF. It's wound to over 9kΩ, but retains AlNico II magnets.

Now, to find a neck pickup that will not only compliment this bridge pickup, but also the 1mΩ pot and 0.01uf K40Y tone capacitor...

More to come... :)
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The Erupter arrived today!!!!

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Swap complete...bare conductors on the tone cap shrink wrapped, unused lug on tone pot taped off and shrink wrapped to prevent it from acting like an antenna. Good, clean solder joints.

This is a total change from the CTS 500k pot and .033uf tone capacitor.

With the 1 Megaohm (996k) pot, the bridge and neck pickup are much more vibrant with zero muddiness. With the 0.01uf tone capacitor, the tone change as you rotate the knob is very subtle and very linear in effect, despite being an audio taper pot.

Instant gratification!!!

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So, the coverd/uncovered look doesn't seem to appear to off-kilter visually. Page seems to be the first without dual open bobbins:

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Epiphone makes the G-1275 in the same Pagey configuration:

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Take a good look at the Epiphone. I can assure you that it is not a 24.75" scale length guitar. My double neck is dead-on 24.75" from the nut to the 'g' string saddle, and look where the bridge is located in relation to the Epiphone...

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next time you see a G-1275, pull out your measuring tape. You will find the center of the bridge to be 23.75" from the nut... :-)
 
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