Vintage Gibson SG Project:

chilipeppermaniac said:
I guess that was my point on dressing up a pig. It is done now as new parts were ordered. But it is your customer's money. If it's not gonna be a decent player, then it sure won't be much of a display either. Kind of like putting a train derailment in the Smithsonian. Shouldn't happen.
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I offer advice when I feel my knowledge level is reasonable for the matter at hand. In this case, I recommended only putting the missing parts on ($300.00) to make it playable.

At the end of the day, they have to make the ultimate decision.

They have a lot of old Gibsons in display cases...and other cool things like a Hofner bass signed by Sir Paul McCartney.
 
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Personally, I wouldn't spend a dime ,putting in work on a guitar in that condition...I wouldn't even think of putting that guitar in a showcase..
 
Robert Herndon said:
I offer advice when I feel my knowledge level is reasonable for the matter at hand. In this case, I recommended only putting the missing parts on ($300.00) to make it playable.

At the end of the day, they have to make the ultimate decision.

They have a lot of old Gibsons in display cases...and other cool things like a Hofner bass signed by Sir Paul McCartney.
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Yup Robert, I see this every day from you. Many times, you have great insight into the inner workings of guitars and set ups and if some are built with enough foundation to be proper playable instruments vs instrument looking wall art.
 
smitty_p said:
If I was in the market for a guitar, I’d probably buy this. I’d probably plug the screw holes left by the vacant Maestro, have it completely stripped and repainted, and replace the bridge and tuners.

Those old, single P-90, SG Juniors appeal to me in strange, quirky sort of way.
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The Juniors are something I've never understood in terms of their appeal. They are the Ford Pinto of the Gibson line.
 
Session 5 said:
Personally, I wouldn't spend a dime ,putting in work on a guitar in that condition...I wouldn't even think of putting that guitar in a showcase..
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I can understand that. Many of my clients have rather extensive collections. One has a shattered Pete Townsend guitar. Some are genuine, time-capsule relics. Some have been fully restored.

To some, the SG Jr is desirable.
 
I remember the Ford Pintos



Ford Pinto design engineering issues​

Quick notes​

-The Ford Pinto was an automotive safety engineering failure.​

-Repositioning the fuel tank and adding a rubber bladder could have prevented many injuries and deaths.​

The Ford Pinto became a fiery hotbed of flames when rear-ended at a relatively low speed of 25 MPH and higher. But why exactly was this?

Fuel tank position and location​

The Ford Pinto fuel tank was located in front of the rear bumper, behind the rear axle. Common for subcompacts at that time. Not only did the position make it vulnerable to direct impact damage, which when you think of how combustible gasoline actually is makes the design position just bonkers, but the Pinto was specifically designed to be light so the rear end was prone to crumpling upon lower speed impact
 
I know, Robert. But then again, the Pinto and Gib Jr's's appeal was to stock humans too. Not every musician or normal human is well healed super rich Bill Gates types who can afford small countries and guitars that do nothing but get looked at.
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
I know, Robert. But then again, the Pinto and Gib Jr's's appeal was to stock humans too. Not every musician or normal human is well healed super rich Bill Gates types who can afford small countries and guitars that do nothing but get looked at.
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Me neither. Until I could afford the Les Paul I wanted, I found a replica and fitted it with top quity pickups and hardware.
 
Robert Herndon said:
This guitar has had a very poor repaint at some point in its lifetime...



Sanded areas exist all over the guitar...Serial stamp is likely buried.



Lots of poor quality work abounds...



The idea here is not to do a refinish or a polish. I've been asked to functionally restore it to working condition for a display case.

I'm thinking of trying to cut through some of the paint with finer paper on the back of the headstock to see if the number can be revealed.

"SERIAL 11995w" is written on a small sticker on the back of the guitar. This is incorrect in both format and range for a guitar of this vintage.
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The original color of the guitar was white. The only Juniors to have bound fingerboards were white.

I like the fix for stripped threads on that tailpiece. Too bad it will live in a display case. They are fun guitars to play. They have the most stable necks of all the SG models because it was not routed for a neck pickup.
 
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Robert Herndon said:
The Juniors are something I've never understood in terms of their appeal. They are the Ford Pinto of the Gibson line.
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I wouldn’t go that far!

How about we meet in the middle? Let‘s say they are the Chevy Nova of the Gibson line. I’m cool with that. My first car was a ‘71 Nova. I’ll even let you say they are the ”Chevy Nova with a straight six and three-on-the-floor” of the Gibson line!
 
SG John said:
The original color of the guitar was white. The only Juniors t o have bound fingerboards were white.

I like the fix for stripped threads on that tailpiece. Too bad it will live in a display case. They are fun guitars to play. They have the most stable necks of all the SG models because it was not routed for a neck pickup.
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It's a fun project!!!!!
 
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