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Adding mud or reducing treble response (with the .047uf caps) seems to be the way Leo tried to offset the severe brightness in a Stratocaster circuit by adding a "mud control," but not to the bridge, where it was needed most.

I've always found the fascination with the "tradition" of the .047uf capacitor in a guitar tone circuit almost laughable.

(This is not the same as using a .047uf capacitor in series with a pickup to reduce low frequency response)

Like cloth covered wiring, the tradition is embraced largely because its traditional.

At far, far less than 180° of tone knob rotation, and you have just draped a wet comforter over the amp. I've never understood that.

@ivan H and I have both discussed this at length.

Even the Gibson .022uf produces useable response over most of the knob's range of motion.

I tend to use .012uf quite often on my bench as a "standard" replacement tone capacitor and people are shocked at how their tone circuit has suddenly become useable.

TBTH, I really like how .010uf works best of all.

I tend to keep a batch of Mullard .012 and .015uf on hand as they are cheap (and the fact that they look like a piece of candy from grandma's candy dish is cool too.)

I've used 0.01uf quite a bit in a number of builds and it's a great capacitor, giving full range of motion to the tone knob and useable tone even when rolled all the way off.

@ivan H conducted his own experiments with this vue and perhaps he too will chime in.

I favor the little box capacitors in this rating as they have long leads and fit nicely into small control cavities.

Even on brand new Stratocasters, that now feature a bridge tone control, it's just absolute mud after a few degrees of movement.

I like having the full sweep of the knob available in very linear fashion.

I see your point now. I think we’re talking about two different things. Though our two metaphors (dirt and mud) seem to be similar ideas, I wasn’t directing my comment at a tone-focused idea, i.e., more or less high frequency content. And I agree, it can be interesting to see the results of experimenting with different capacitors in a tone circuit.

My usage of the term “dirt” was meant to address the idea of overdrive or distortion.
 
I see your point now. I think we’re talking about two different things. Though our two metaphors (dirt and mud) seem to be similar ideas, I wasn’t directing my comment at a tone-focused idea, i.e., more or less high frequency content. And I agree, it can be interesting to see the results of experimenting with different capacitors in a tone circuit.

My usage of the term “dirt” was meant to address the idea of overdrive or distortion.

I really don't use it anymore. I tend to have a louder, cleaner sound. With the Ivanberg, I'm dialed way, way back and I'm not using the Jose Zener Diode Clipping function.

What is a core part of my sound is massive low frequency punch. I'm running the bass at 3pm and I can knock pictures off the wall here at home, yet still have a searing, upper-mid snarl that cuts through a mix.

Even with my bass cranked, it's not on the same frequency as the bass guitar...it's higher and you can hear it clearly over the top of the bass guitar.

A drummer from another band was in attendance and he and I spoke during the dinner break. He said, "Man, how do you get your guitar to have that kick-drum punch? When I walked through your wave it made my nose run. Nobody's guitars sound that big and I could hear yours over everyone else's, yet your volume level seemed lower than theirs. That's such a badass tone!"

I was running a 50 foot cord direct into the Ivanberg. No pedalboard.
 
I see your point now. I think we’re talking about two different things. Though our two metaphors (dirt and mud) seem to be similar ideas, I wasn’t directing my comment at a tone-focused idea, i.e., more or less high frequency content. And I agree, it can be interesting to see the results of experimenting with different capacitors in a tone circuit.

My usage of the term “dirt” was meant to address the idea of overdrive or distortion.

Right, I see that point now with more clarity.

I do a fair amount of experimentation....

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HEY GET THIS its CHEAPER than buying tubes for what ever you have ;)
The Benton website only shows the 5 star reviews, and will not allow reading the negative reviews. There are several negative reviews but we can't see them, they are hidden.

The amp is called the "Celestion 15."
Because it has a Celestion speaker, but they don't tell us which speaker.
No pictures of the back or insides.

(nothing like full honest disclosure)
 
The Benton website only shows the 5 star reviews, and will not allow reading the negative reviews. There are several negative reviews but we can't see them, they are hidden.

The amp is called the "Celestion 15."
Because it has a Celestion speaker, but they don't tell us which speaker.
No pictures of the back or insides.

(nothing like full honest disclosure)

I think the bar is going to be pretty low for these things regardless. Just another disposable amp to use as a pedal platform until its inevitable early demise.
 
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