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Here’s an interesting video by Glenn Fricker.

Fair warning…Glenn Fricker uses…umm… “colorful” language…and he’s not bashful!

Oh, one other thing…everything in the video is in a metal context. No cleans, jazz, or blues here!

Anyway…here ya go…

 
Very interesting. After watching and listening to the video, and info he presented, I agree with what he has found, and it makes sense to me. Let the games begin....:whistle:
 
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I will also say that is why I test EVERYTHING through the EXACT SAME 12" Peavey Sheffield 1x12 --- EVERYTHING -- (except bass stuff that goes through the HARTKE)

becasue the speaker and the cabnet are now "equalized" ... they are ALWASY constant
If I am listening to an orange crush 12 ...its running through the Peavey 12" not the 6.5 inch orange speaker
same with the VOX pathfinder 10
OR the Fender bassbreaker ... or ... or ....or -- ANYTHING -- including digital -- (which I like through monitors better :) )

so -- yep I have to FRICKEN agree with the Frickster SPEAKERS/cabs change crap a LOT!
 
Makes sense of course. Granted hardcore metal with balls of distortion will not show subtlies of other factors as much as something cleaner or bluesy. I suspect you would hear more of a difference especially with pickups. Huge difference there, I have done it to compare types to see what I wanted to get.
Surprised he never seemed to touch on that much.
 
Jethro Rocker said:
Makes sense of course. Granted hardcore metal with balls of distortion will not show subtlies of other factors as much as something cleaner or bluesy. I suspect you would hear more of a difference especially with pickups. Huge difference there, I have done it to compare types to see what I wanted to get.
Surprised he never seemed to touch on that much.
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In a follow-up video, he addresses pickups and does acknowledge they will affect tone, too.

Here’s the video. He is addressing user comments in this video, so he doesn’t get to discussing pickups until 8:39 in the video.


 
TBTH, I feel like he's thinking too much. I can tell you that on $300/hour commercial recordings in L.A., we don't put that level of thought and analytic time expenditure into the project.

It's a well done video and a cool discussion topic though...
 
I believe, the hands have some take in the whole scenario. For example takethe song ready for love ( Bad Company ) You could have two people play that same song and it would be different, of course it would be . Each player strums ,picks out notes totally different than the other one. Each has their own individual take on how they play. Both individuals have played their own style and both sound good.

Now the thing with running after tone is the rabbit hole. If you are constantly searching for that right tone and you are not finding it, then to me there is a problem, I believe there comes a point were a person overthinks the issue. Since i do gigs on my own, some are volunteer and some are paid, i have yet to this day have somebody say to me in particular I like your tone.

Now, i have had good feedback about my performances. In the end the crowd or venue doesn't care about the tone, they just want to be entertained and enjoy the music, thats what its all about.
 
Yargnad said:
When people say tone is in the hands they don't mean the actual tone that is emitted by the pickup to the amp. :facepalm: They really mean the feeling, or the inflection, and fluidity plus the timing and the selection of notes, in other words, the player's individuality.
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Yeah, this exactly. Tone is confused with technique. Simple as.

But it's still fun to debate about it on the internuts.
 
In the category of, “Tossing a Firecracker into the Henhouse,” here’s Mr. Fricker’s take on different brands of vacuum tubes!

 
Session 5 said:
I believe, the hands have some take in the whole scenario. For example takethe song ready for love ( Bad Company ) You could have two people play that same song and it would be different, of course it would be . Each player strums ,picks out notes totally different than the other one. Each has their own individual take on how they play. Both individuals have played their own style and both sound good.

Now the thing with running after tone is the rabbit hole. If you are constantly searching for that right tone and you are not finding it, then to me there is a problem, I believe there comes a point were a person overthinks the issue. Since i do gigs on my own, some are volunteer and some are paid, i have yet to this day have somebody say to me in particular I like your tone.

Now, i have had good feedback about my performances. In the end the crowd or venue doesn't care about the tone, they just want to be entertained and enjoy the music, thats what its all about.
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Only musicians will comment on your tone...
 
smitty_p said:
In the category of, “Tossing a Firecracker into the Henhouse,” here’s Mr. Fricker’s take on different brands of vacuum tubes!

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The only difference I have ever experienced with tubes is differences in gain production.

I recall a recent show where a buddy's Germino Lead 55 dropped out in the middle of a song.

I dug through my bag and found a hodge-podge of oddball 12AX7 's at the bottom. I had to straighten the pins on a couple of them.

I got it running during the break and he loved the sound so much, he didn't want me to put new tubes in it.
 
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