The Law gets a boat load of Chibsons

Keysdweller said:
All of these companies make Gibson style guitars with their own names on the guitars: PRS, ESP, Schecter, Eastman, Ibanez, Edwards, Tokai, Greco, Burny, Agile, Wolf, Harley Benton, Firefly, D’Angelico, Yamaha, Guild, Godin, Sire, Heritage, etc. If you're going to buy a real Gibson, you better use a very reputable company or know a real Gibson from experience.
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However one difference:
"All Sales Final, No Returns Accepted."

The companies that make the guitars back up the product with parts and service.

The maga guitar has no customer, parts, or service support.
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
However one difference:
"All Sales Final, No Returns Accepted."

The companies that make the guitars back up the product with parts and service.

The maga guitar has no customer, parts, or service support.
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I would guess anyone who bought a maga guitar would be buying it as collector's item, especially the signed ones. I wouldn't be interested in buying one, but I would be interested to know all the specs and how they played. When I buy a Les Paul, it is a real Gibson.
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
The maga guitar has no customer, parts, or service support.
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Not a big disadvantage for a collector's issue?
Or can You imagine seeing one on stage?

BTW: i am a bit surprised, just because there have been are still plenty copys of Gibson designs on the market - all, of course, with different headstocks due to the long established legal situation. You just need to check the shops of large vendors...

Business wise i think it has been a good idea to bring such a product on the market. Regardless wether You like that great-grandson of a German butcher or wether You dislike him.
 
Anyway, back to the main topic - the Chibsons:

In this little video You can see the headstocks: Gibson shaped with Gibson imprint. And a few other faked brands, notably Gretsch.


So: this would have prevented a serious real fraud. A huge contrast to all those clearly non original copies of famous guitars in Gibson (and even more Fender) shapes which to me are no problem at all you can buy legally from any other major music store.
 
Keysdweller said:
I would guess anyone who bought a maga guitar would be buying it as collector's item, especially the signed ones. I wouldn't be interested in buying one, but I would be interested to know all the specs and how they played. When I buy a Les Paul, it is a real Gibson.
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If you wanna pay $11,000 for a $200 guitar with a bolt on neck...go ahead.
 
bea said:
Not a big disadvantage for a collector's issue?
Or can You imagine seeing one on stage?

BTW: i am a bit surprised, just because there have been are still plenty copys of Gibson designs on the market - all, of course, with different headstocks due to the long established legal situation. You just need to check the shops of large vendors...

Business wise i think it has been a good idea to bring such a product on the market. Regardless wether You like that great-grandson of a German butcher or wether You dislike him.
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Reverb won't allow this guitar to be sold or shown on their website.
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
Reverb won't allow this guitar to be sold or shown on their website.
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Currently: so what?
Who would sell his Trump signature on a guitar shaped piece of wood, for which he had paid more than 10000 bucks that early? (And if someone would need to do there will be probably some other possibilities to offer that thing and also some hardcore Trump fans to buy it).

So let's wait 10 or 15 years and see then. That's all about politics and such social sentiments can change.

And my point was never that technically uninteresting Guitar of the not so close relative of the butcher who made the "Pfälzer Saumagen" for former Gemran Bundeskanzler Helmut Kohl was really relevant.

What we should really care about is that Gibson makes another attempt to put the shape of the Les Paul under copyright and therefore wants to extend the legislation for their profit. That Trump guitar probably is loeaded with pretty emotions both by the Trump fanboys and the Trump haters. And that appears like a good chance for Gibson to reach completely different goals.
 
bea said:
Business wise i think it has been a good idea to bring such a product on the market.
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This, I think, is the point.

It is marketing, plain and simple. All of the American Eagle Les Paul copies - both the autographed and non-autographed units - have sold out mere days after coming online. So, it's pretty obvious that it was successful.

Personally, I have zero interest in acquiring one. But, the marketing is intriguing.
 
smitty_p said:
This, I think, is the point.

It is marketing, plain and simple. All of the American Eagle Les Paul copies - both the autographed and non-autographed units - have sold out mere days after coming online. So, it's pretty obvious that it was successful.

Personally, I have zero interest in acquiring one. But, the marketing is intriguing.
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It's even more interesting marketing at a time when Les Paul copies are being seized by the law...:rolf::rolf::rolf: The law applies to almost everybody....

Screenshot 2024-12-02 at 08-29-38 The Law gets a boat load of Chibsons.png But here is a counterfeit Gretsch......................

And please correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks a lot like a counterfeit PRS guitar.

Screenshot 2024-12-02 at 08-28-05 The Law gets a boat load of Chibsons.png Is that a phony PRS or what?

But it's not just Gibson they are copying.

Which leads me to ask the question: don't you think this questions / undermines the authenticity of ALL guitars that we have been collecting?
And don't you think that this devalues ALL guitars overall real or phony?
 
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You forget the Trump guitars dont say Gibson on them. There not trying to fool anyone.
 
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As far as Gibsons lawsuit goes on these guitars there sales must be down other wise who would worry bout a guitar thats not really even close.Damn things look more PRS single cut than Gibson.
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
It's even more interesting marketing at a time when Les Paul copies are being seized by the law...:rolf::rolf::rolf: The law applies to almost everybody....
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Wasn’t gonna wade in, but….a quick glance at the bolt-on shows most of the cursory requirements put upon other manufacturers (like Agile, etc) regarding trade dress have been addressed. The cutaway horn is wrongly shaped, the upper bout is also wrong, along with the top-carve, and the headstock shape is definitely not open book or anything remotely Gibson.
But hey….no publicity is “bad”….and Gibson *has* to be seen defending its trade dress, avidly…or they’ll lose claim to it.
 
JohnnyGoo said:
As far as Gibsons lawsuit goes on these guitars there sales must be down other wise who would worry bout a guitar thats not really even close.Damn things look more PRS single cut than Gibson.
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I think it’s a kit build, tarted up for the occasion. Meant to be a wall-hanger.

And all kinds of people are losing their shlt about it….my outrage is holding out for something more substantial.
 
smitty_p said:
This, I think, is the point.

It is marketing, plain and simple. All of the American Eagle Les Paul copies - both the autographed and non-autographed units - have sold out mere days after coming online. So, it's pretty obvious that it was successful.

Personally, I have zero interest in acquiring one. But, the marketing is intriguing.
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Yes you could not pay ME enough to add that monstrosity to my stable!! :D
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
Which leads me to ask the question: don't you think this questions / undermines the authenticity of ALL guitars that we have been collecting?
And don't you think that this devalues ALL guitars overall real or phony?
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I'm curious. I think I know what you're getting at.

Can you explain a little further?
 
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