the HUM!
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The Boss NS-2 will do similar, but it’s a little more complicated to set the 2 control knobs(instead of one).
As he said in the video, he only has one master tone on that three pickup custom...
(Of course that is pointed out around a minute later)
His set up is beyond the Hum Debugger. It’s more in line with needing 5 or 6 Decimator II G-string pedals, set up in four cable mode.
Like this:
That's an interesting rig right there!!!!
Ok! Dig this...when I did the 4 cable mod with my NS-2 it inactivated my delay!!!!!
I most certainly did not have that problem when I used it in 4 cable mode with my Laney. I’ve no idea what your problem was. Presumably, placement of the delay in the signal chain...but that’s just a speculation since I was not there. Delay, chorus(modulation), and reverb should be post gate.
RVA
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It is just so inconceivable that he claims to focus on his tone...and comes up with that hot mess.As he said in the video, he only has one master tone on that three pickup custom...
(Of course that is pointed out around a minute later)
His set up is beyond the Hum Debugger. It’s more in line with needing 5 or 6 Decimator II G-string pedals, set up in four cable mode.
Like this:
Apparently, he thinks that there are only 2 pickup types - Lollar (model unknown) and "Lace"
I have the Marshall JVM and the decimator II set up on the 4 cable method. Also works like a charm
OP
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
note he said he uses a Les Paul Recording guitar in the studio-- so Im guessing not ALL THAT HUM --- but quiet into the board then they add all the gain/distortion and stuff
Hahahahaha! They shoot for a step heavier than that old Black Sabbath sound, but in that vein. With a gut punch that comes from pushing ridiculous power through many speakers. Those Thunderverb 200 heads are ridiculous for most situations (they’re supposed to be great bass heads) with the exception of the venues they are playing. Like it or not, it is a tone. One that’s been around for a while now. It’s not for everyone, but it works for them.
Yeah, he comes through as a scatterbrained human, but some people do enjoy what they put out.
Something reminiscent of a direction that Black Sabbath could have taken.
That said, it’s hard to believe that he puts up with that kind of noise for long. He did allude to the fact that his ABC rental heads only last so long before they need to be “recycled”(I presume that means serviced and rebuilt), and perhaps these were nearing the end of their service life....just one more show
....pushing near full volume for a couple of hours.I do enjoy their studio stuff when I’m in the mood. I’ve never seen them live. Doubt I ever will.
Yeah, I caught that. I figured that’s why you posted the video in the first place.
I’ve been waiting for you to mention it.
gball
Ambassador of Boogie
Exactly. Really, the only live music I will see these days is the Stoner/Desert rock bands and they all pretty much have this "problem" which isn't really one in a live setting at all. Obviously this isn't what you are hearing on their studio recordings.
OP
eSGEe
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sorry was gone a few days works got me buried ......................Yeah, I caught that. I figured that’s why you posted the video in the first place.
I’ve been waiting for you to mention it.
Agreed. Live reproduction of the recordings definitely requires air movement,(and power tube saturation) which requires copious quantities of power...in larger venues especially...the amps used are not known for being quiet when pushed in to that realm.
In the studio though...different story. It’s a magical place.
Good question!!!!
But I got things working great now!!!
Orange cables are FX loop.
NS-2 had greatest effect in front of the amp...
Agreed. Live reproduction of the recordings definitely requires air movement,(and power tube saturation) which requires copious quantities of power...in larger venues especially...the amps used are not known for being quiet when pushed in to that realm.
In the studio though...different story. It’s a magical place.
Another reason I love my DSL40C's. I can drive them and they are quiet. Through my 4x12's, they are hard to beat. My colleague's 2203 is no louder...
There was no “question” in that quoted statement.
I am glad that you are happy with the way it is working for you now.
RVA
Ambassador
So neat!
There was no “question” in that quoted statement.
I am glad that you are happy with the way it is working for you now.
The '4 cable' just didn't offer me anything, and I hooked it up several different ways:
In fact, when placed last before the amp, the NS-2 had dramatic noise reduction capabilities that it did not have when hooked up in the 4 cable arrangement...
Everyone who hears this rig always ask me a tone of questions about my rig. I got more compliments on my tone in 2 months with this board and a DSL40C than I got in over 20 years with a 2203 & 2034 cabinet.
Everything on this board is on all the time....everything except the delay and the left hand EQ. These pedals are my tone and when each one is switched on individually, the effect is very subtle. The EQ on the right is on all the time.
The delay is switched off - sometimes - for certain songs rhythm parts, but I generally have it set conservatively and can leave it on all the time.
The EQ on the left is switch one only for solos and it provides a significant volume boost...
RVA
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I once did a side by side with the NS-2 and decimator. There was no comparison, the Decimator being far superior. I found that the threshold knob NS2 went from not enough noise reduction to cutting off any sustain. The decimator has served me well for many years