Terrible advice...

67plexi said:
I think its a joke people wanting professional sound out of a communist made product. With the exception of former Russian block country's.
In the 1950's and 1960's things were made to last now everything made is disposable. Theirs a few unicorn's
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Is disposable so bad? Use and discard, have a backup. As long as they work in the middle. Hey, this is the age of the leased car - a new one every 3 years!

That said, SS amps can be thrown down the stairs and be just fine. One bad knock on a tube amp - well, get ready with the diagnostics, because there is a good chance it is gonna need a tweak
 
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USA MADE: by rednecks in North MS.
SOlid state as the day is long --- 100.00 OR LESS--- and F"ing SLAYS most amps out there ----in 5 times its price range---
BUT this falls on deaf ears because it doesnt have TUBES-----
shame..................
oh well---- enjoying mine right now ---
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keep ignoring though because if everyone catches on the prices will sky rocket----
 
The used market is where poor teens should be looking, not the display cabinets in Cosmo !!

A nice amp can be had for 150-200 Can$ something like a Vox VT or VTX.

My last bargain is a Traynor 40 Combo, Tube amp for less than them offerings in the OP. Used price, and where I tried one out at Long Mquade is 850$ - 900$ plus tax upwards

YouTube the info required and then get out and search
 
there is more information-- sound clips and tech talk online now than existed on the planet when I was a teen looking for amps (TBTC there was NO INTERNET then) ----ALL one has to do is put down the video game and GOOGLE it-- :)
Craigslist it-- facebook market place it---- and the deals will flow like wine

I had to plunder pawn shops and buy and try and sell and learn ......and..... wtf I really need to GROW UP!
 
The only reason I think I sold my 1st Peavey was I sold my first guitar too, That and maybe it was a bass amp and I wanted a Guitar amp. I forget. Either way, I neither have it nor the Solid State SUNN I replaced it with.

I think the Peavey was like this.

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Robert Herndon said:
I really believe they are...with the usual failures here and there. Adrian got a couple of Marshall Code's that were junk.
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With a tube amp like the T5 and a good cab at the same price as the MG30 and sounding so much better in every way, I just don't see it. The MG was an experiment to see if that ss has improved to a decent level (beyond the crap MG15 I had 30 years ago), and that one, at least, has not - yet some people rate it highly. It's utter crap. It's only $200, but it's still crap - nowadays you can get a lot for $200 new out of Thomann, for example.

Are there good ss amps? Yes, I'm sure there are; I've never personally played one, but others have. &, I know there are decent modelling amps because I have the Yamaha THR10 - but it still lags far behind the Marshall Origin with pedals (I accept they are at totally different price points).

People have different ears, clearly (I still get shocked that some folks can't hear the difference between a maple and rosewood fingerboard; and those people are shocked that I "think" I can...), and different expectations, and different ways of comparing things on a scale, different views of value, and so much more, so I fully accept that some folks are right in thinking stuff is good for them.

Back to the original point: so many Youtube channels set up by stores and folks making money out of us, I suspect many of us, certainly me, watch too many and get affected by them. Many give crap advice. If you watch, say the Anderton's video with a critical eye, then you can see their BS easily, time after time; they are a store, out to make money from you - that's their job. Lots of terrible advice out there - nothing beats going to a store and trying stuff out yourself; it is the best way by far.

You Americans have it so good for guitar shops, guitar techs, guitar knowledge and secondhand market. The Canadians are doing well too. For the last 15+ years, I've been living in Thailand, Oman and Korea where we have (in Oman's case) nothing, to Korea's case where you have a crap secondhand market, expensive new products and very little if any customer or technical support. For example, this piece of shite MG30 was double the price in Korea, so I got it from Germany, and I'd like to send it back to get a refund, but that'll cost me the shipping, and Thomann do it by boat, so it'll take 3 months to get the refund. The UK is much better than here, but still not as good as the US/Canada - you folks are in a wonderful place to be guitar enthusiasts.
 
Mr Grumpy said:
With a tube amp like the T5 and a good cab at the same price as the MG30 and sounding so much better in every way, I just don't see it. The MG was an experiment to see if that ss has improved to a decent level (beyond the crap MG15 I had 30 years ago), and that one, at least, has not - yet some people rate it highly. It's utter crap. It's only $200, but it's still crap - nowadays you can get a lot for $200 new out of Thomann, for example.

Are there good ss amps? Yes, I'm sure there are; I've never personally played one, but others have. &, I know there are decent modelling amps because I have the Yamaha THR10 - but it still lags far behind the Marshall Origin with pedals (I accept they are at totally different price points).

People have different ears, clearly (I still get shocked that some folks can't hear the difference between a maple and rosewood fingerboard; and those people are shocked that I "think" I can...), and different expectations, and different ways of comparing things on a scale, different views of value, and so much more, so I fully accept that some folks are right in thinking stuff is good for them.

Back to the original point: so many Youtube channels set up by stores and folks making money out of us, I suspect many of us, certainly me, watch too many and get affected by them. Many give crap advice. If you watch, say the Anderton's video with a critical eye, then you can see their BS easily, time after time; they are a store, out to make money from you - that's their job. Lots of terrible advice out there - nothing beats going to a store and trying stuff out yourself; it is the best way by far.

You Americans have it so good for guitar shops, guitar techs, guitar knowledge and secondhand market. The Canadians are doing well too. For the last 15+ years, I've been living in Thailand, Oman and Korea where we have (in Oman's case) nothing, to Korea's case where you have a crap secondhand market, expensive new products and very little if any customer or technical support. For example, this piece of shite MG30 was double the price in Korea, so I got it from Germany, and I'd like to send it back to get a refund, but that'll cost me the shipping, and Thomann do it by boat, so it'll take 3 months to get the refund. The UK is much better than here, but still not as good as the US/Canada - you folks are in a wonderful place to be guitar enthusiasts.
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I can certainly appreciate how good we have it here in the States, Mr. Grump. I was recently in Central America and I couldn't even find electric guitar strings, let alone a tech.

I've bought 5 brand new Gibson's in less than 3 years and 4 had serious problems and sent them back. However, my 2016 Gibson Les Paul 50's Tribute is quite possibly the finest guitar I have EVER had (thanks to eSGe for finding it at Matt's Music)

I honestly feel that music stuff is hit and miss. I have a great 2002 MG50CRD and I have used it on recordings for hire.

My 2016 Marshall DSL40C has been a huge disappointment. Everyone else seems to love them. Go figure.
 
Mr Grumpy said:
With a tube amp like the T5 and a good cab at the same price as the MG30 and sounding so much better in every way, I just don't see it. The MG was an experiment to see if that ss has improved to a decent level (beyond the crap MG15 I had 30 years ago), and that one, at least, has not - yet some people rate it highly. It's utter crap. It's only $200, but it's still crap - nowadays you can get a lot for $200 new out of Thomann, for example.

Are there good ss amps? Yes, I'm sure there are; I've never personally played one, but others have. &, I know there are decent modelling amps because I have the Yamaha THR10 - but it still lags far behind the Marshall Origin with pedals (I accept they are at totally different price points).

People have different ears, clearly (I still get shocked that some folks can't hear the difference between a maple and rosewood fingerboard; and those people are shocked that I "think" I can...), and different expectations, and different ways of comparing things on a scale, different views of value, and so much more, so I fully accept that some folks are right in thinking stuff is good for them.

Back to the original point: so many Youtube channels set up by stores and folks making money out of us, I suspect many of us, certainly me, watch too many and get affected by them. Many give crap advice. If you watch, say the Anderton's video with a critical eye, then you can see their BS easily, time after time; they are a store, out to make money from you - that's their job. Lots of terrible advice out there - nothing beats going to a store and trying stuff out yourself; it is the best way by far.

You Americans have it so good for guitar shops, guitar techs, guitar knowledge and secondhand market. The Canadians are doing well too. For the last 15+ years, I've been living in Thailand, Oman and Korea where we have (in Oman's case) nothing, to Korea's case where you have a crap secondhand market, expensive new products and very little if any customer or technical support. For example, this piece of shite MG30 was double the price in Korea, so I got it from Germany, and I'd like to send it back to get a refund, but that'll cost me the shipping, and Thomann do it by boat, so it'll take 3 months to get the refund. The UK is much better than here, but still not as good as the US/Canada - you folks are in a wonderful place to be guitar enthusiasts.
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Don't forget Brits and Aussies and South Americans who frequent here, Grumpy.
 
RVA said:
hat said, SS amps can be thrown down the stairs and be just fine.
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I might test that out, thanks for the idea! :D

eSGEe said:
BUT this falls on deaf ears because it doesnt have TUBES
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Try finding one in Korea, or on ebay that will work on the mains supply here. It's not easy to get those Peavy amps everywhere - I have looked... I'm not against the concept of ss amps being good. &, if my Yamaha modelling amp can sound decent for $300 then the $1000+ modellers likely do sound very very good.

chilipeppermaniac said:
Don't forget Brits and Aussies and South Americans who frequent here, Grumpy.
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Yeah, I agree, I am from London and we are well served by music shops and guys with good knowledge although prices are mostly high and options are far less than in the US for used gear. I know from this board that stuff in Aussieland is really expensive, and South America has very limited availability. The USA is the best place to be a guitar lover, especially if you like 'classic era' Fenders or Mesa amps or Gibson guitars or...
 
Mr Grumpy said:
I might test that out, thanks for the idea! :D



Try finding one in Korea, or on ebay that will work on the mains supply here. It's not easy to get those Peavy amps everywhere - I have looked... I'm not against the concept of ss amps being good. &, if my Yamaha modelling amp can sound decent for $300 then the $1000+ modellers likely do sound very very good.



Yeah, I agree, I am from London and we are well served by music shops and guys with good knowledge although prices are mostly high and options are far less than in the US for used gear. I know from this board that stuff in Aussieland is really expensive, and South America has very limited availability. The USA is the best place to be a guitar lover, especially if you like 'classic era' Fenders or Mesa amps or Gibson guitars or...
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SO many factors in electronic gear world wide. Like you said, many European options, but when in more remote or different environments like Asia, South or Central America, Africa etc, the options shrink.

As for Mains Power supply matching, that adds other restrictions to the equations. This brings me to wonder is 220V 240V is more prevalent in the world, or is our "American" 110-120V the greater proportion?
 
As for good sounding SS amps, I got curious when I was in a used gear music store and a Roland Jazz Chorus came in. Those amps are reputed to be excellent sounding SS amps.

 
^ played a roland recently with a humbucker Les Paul and it sounded really nice for a ss.

chilipeppermaniac said:
As for Mains Power supply matching, that adds other restrictions to the equations. This brings me to wonder is 220V 240V is more prevalent in the world, or is our "American" 110-120V the greater proportion?
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Europe uses the 220V, same as Korea, so that's why I buy a lot of stuff from Germany.
 
Yeah, I figured they were 220V, Grumpy.

Believe it or not what used to be my only European amp was of course my 1972 Marshall JMP 1987 50 watt Lead head. It was truly European originally as it has the Bulgin style mains plug, the Adjustable Voltage selector that is adjustable for 110, 120, 220, 240 options if I am not mistaken. ( Obviously I use the 120 being in the US.)

I think my other UK made amps are strictly 120V. The 1978 100 watt Superlead/bass, Laney AOR Pro Tube Lead 50 watt are my others.

Needless to say, I understand the limitations and what one has to account for whatever country they live in.
 
I could be in a bad mood 5/4 sorry ALL. My Daughter died 5 years ago she would have been 29 years now.
Our Band played out Friday night and used my home made EF86 18 watt amp I put the amp behind the drummer stage space was marginal.
Amp on volume 1 The house PA system was a mess I EQ the room and used my QSC K12.2 monitors x 3
Thursday night we checked out the PA system my friend Scott Fry was their we have been in at least 10 bands since 1984
Scott asked if I was still playing my 1961 Strat so I brought it to the gig last time I used that guitar on stage was 1992
We had a cruse ship full of people from Auckland NZ they said you played drums not today.
OK I played my Parker Esquire and 61 Strat Doug recorded set 2,3,4 on his I phone If I did not know what guitars I played they sounded all the same
in the I phone recording so is the I phone a crap recording or something else ??? When I was playing the guitars I could hear the difference.
At the end of the day I have a pro drummer to jam with next time I'm in Auckland. Small world. I have a corporate meeting next month in Maui
then business in Dubai and last Auckland. Our band was booked next month five day's per week this feminist wort hog large and in charge was bitching
that we booked Monday through Friday during the day and booked Friday night and Saturday nights at other clubs. The wort hog said we want bluegrass music
not Classic Rock during the day I said simple we cancel all the gigs. And if you change your mind we will be able to play after July 15th.
Angie but but but
 
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