Speakers

Bflat5 said:
I'm thinking about getting new speakers, but unsure of what I really want. I was considering the Vintage 30's. What I am looking for is a tight low end With good mids and highs.

The amp is a Marshall JVM 410H. Not sure which cab they will go in yet. I have 4 to choose from. Marshall, Randall, Carvin, and Peavey.

Any suggestions?
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Bflat5 said:
Right now the cab is a stock Marshall 1960A. We play pretty heavy stuff, mostly in drop C#. When I play alone, and not writing for our stuff, I will grab one of my Jacksons which are in E and Eb. Still pretty heavy, though.
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I’m not sure if my input is going to completely fit, but a while back I was looking to tighten up one of my rigs...an old Laney AOR, paired with an old 1960b with G12T-75 stock speakers(90s era…probably early 90s). Not because I didn’t like it as it was, but because I wanted to be able to run a full stack, and my other cabs didn’t pair up well with the 1960b 16Ω load.
So, I loaded up a 73 Kustom tuck n roll 4X12 with a set of MojoTone British Vintage BV30H speakers, and gave it a go. They definitely pair well with the T-75s. They have a tighter bottom end, for sure, but the rig is so big that I only fire it up occasionally these days. I like playing in E-flat/drop C#, mostly heavier stuff (Tool to Soundgarden/AIC to Sabbath to random stoner stuff), but recently I’ve been down to D standard/drop C doing the stoner thing a bit more. I should fire up the Laney through that cab a bit more often…anyway the MojoTone thing…


…but since I’ve been armchair grooving more often lately, I’ve been enjoying a little rig with an old WGS ET-65 for that type of stuff…immensely. I’ve enjoyed it for the solid sound in the lower tuning, without flubbing out the bottom. Maybe worth a look for you…dunno…a very subjective subject, but your description of needs seemed similar to my mindset when I grabbed the MojoTone speakers and I’ve been happy with them…when I can fire them up.
Hope you find what you’re looking for!
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….or maybe try/buy the “Electro-Harmonix 12VR75”… @Bflat5 it’s been suggested several times by notable members…
that have used them countless times, on numerous occasions…
yes…please do…
whatever you choose…please do choose wisely.
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Best of luck…
thatbastarddon
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…and…”May the Schwartz Be With You”…
 
Headache said:
Here's a quick video I shot


I've always loved the T-75 the most, but for live shows and for recording, a v30 is great too. The wgs veteran is a lot cheaper and flavored similar to the V30.

For hard punching kicking lows I really like the k100s.

And....I've been really pleased with these DV 77 Divinity speakers lately!
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Very nice Headache! All sound good!
 
Bflat5 said:
Right now the cab is a stock Marshall 1960A. We play pretty heavy stuff, mostly in drop C#. When I play alone, and not writing for our stuff, I will grab one of my Jacksons which are in E and Eb. Still pretty heavy, though.
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Is overall cabinet weight a consideration?
 
.....More thoughts for your search. (A rabbit hole I've also spent much time in lol)

Just an FYI, the JVM was designed to use the G12T-75 speakers.

A lot of people really like the greenbacks, I hated them, and found them to be anything but tight. I found them to be Flubby and I couldn't trade them off fast enough!

Mixing V30s with T-75s in a 4x12 has been done a million times before, and that's because they really do compliment each other very well. You really can't go wrong with that recipe.
V30s and T75s have literally been the sound of rock and metal for a very long time.

These days people stray a little bit more because we can get on YouTube and listen to speaker comparisons for hours and hours and get on reverb or ebay or Amazon and order new speakers left and right.

If you're looking for something new and wild, check out the DV 77 or the Neo250 copperbacks, or the Eminence swamp thangs.
 
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Headache said:
.....More thoughts for your search. (A rabbit hole I've also spent much time in lol)

Just an FYI, the JVM was designed to use the G12T-75 speakers.

A lot of people really like the greenbacks, I hated them, and found them to be anything but tight. I found them to be Flubby and I couldn't trade them off fast enough!

Mixing V30s with T-75s in a 4x12 has been done a million times before, and that's because they really do compliment each other very well. You really can't go wrong with that recipe.
V30s and T75s have literally been the sound of rock and metal for a very long time.

These days people stray a little bit more because we can get on YouTube and listen to speaker comparisons for hours and hours and get on reverb or ebay or Amazon and order new speakers left and right.

If you're looking for something new and wild, check out the DV 77 or the Neo250 copperbacks, or the Eminence swamp thangs.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This man has been down the rabbit hole on this application ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
@Headache has posted a few helpful videos on the subject at hand, and countless examples of different riffs played through many different speaker configurations over time. He has recently acquired a JVM too…
 
Headache said:
.....More thoughts for your search. (A rabbit hole I've also spent much time in lol)

A lot of people really like the greenbacks, I hated them, and found them to be anything but tight. I found them to be Flubby and I couldn't trade them off fast enough!!
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Exactly my experience with Greenbacks and Creambacks too.

I went through a lot of speakers when i was running a pair of DSL40C's. I destroyed a number of Celestions - including GT1275 Creambacks - due to my high resonance and stage volume levels.

I needed a speaker that was lightweight and could handle high resonance, volume and still sound tight & articulate, during palm-muted passages.

I personally purchased and experimented with (5) different 12 inch speakers that worked under these conditions:

1. Jensen Jet Tornado Neodymium 100 watt

2. Jensen Stealth Neodymium 80 watt

Results:

These speakers were used in each of my DSL40C's - and were recommended by Amplified Parts Bradley Woodbury - to give a slightly different voicing when played through two amps, simultaneously.

They are tight, articulate and handle high resonance/volume levels really well. They weigh only 4 pounds each.

3. WGS Reaper 50 Watt 55Hz

Results:

A heavy speaker, at a whopping 10 pounds, it could handle anything i dished out. It's weight was the deal breaker for me.

4. Electro-Harmonix 12VR75

Results:

You'll find this one referred to as a "Vintage 30 Clone" during many web searches for specs and information.

The speaker has a vented voice coil (like Celestion's Copperback) and weighs only around 8 pounds.

Its tight & articulate, even at high volume and resonance levels. At $49.00 it was very cheap to experiment with and cheap to load a 4x12 cabinet with.

The only thing i didn't like was their weight.

5. Celestion's Copperback 250 Neodymiums

Results:

These speakers checked all the boxes for me. Tight and articulate under extreme heavy metal, muted F-Sharp abuse, vented voice coil, and weighing only about 4.5 pounds.

The tone is very neutral, without any 'artificial coloration' of your sound.

My completed 2x12 cabinet weighs only 25 pounds.

Hope this helps...
 
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Jethro Rocker said:
Stock is T75 I think. What is it lacking? Tight lows..? Seems to have quite a bit as it is IMO.
What channel on JVM? OD1 channel 3? It loses some tightness with gain down around 4. Gain at 8 has more lows but gain way too high to play with.
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I think I may just be looking for variety in sound, plus I have unloaded cabs that need some love. :D

I mainly play on OD2 with the gain around 7ish. It sounds good.

Our rhythm guitar player uses a Randall RD45H with V30's in a shitty B52 4X12 cab. He gets a much brighter tone, which is what I planned,
 
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