Speaker change advice...

iblive said:
Understanding Speaker Efficiency

I did some study when I replaced the Marsland speaker in my Traynor. Went with a 12” Celestion Vintage 30. Thing sounds awesome. But I have to crank it to get breakup. The old original speaker would breakup at way less volume. The Link I included here is a good read. In my case. I stuck too efficient a speaker in. Sounds great. Got a ton of head room. But unless I use a pedal for OD, by the time I get it to breakup..... I’m rattling the walls and windows and hurting ears. Oh well.
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Use a volume pedal in the FX loop. Works for me
 
jtcnj said:
Interesting.

It gives me the idea for a new amp effect, which utilizes tube tremolo, but not as part of the audio signal.
Instead the peak amplitudes of the tremolo would energize a relay which taps off one of the transformer windings.
The controlled relay circuit energizes a shock coil attached to a plug in module on a large toad, shaped by the Speed and Intensity pots.
The shock coil stimulates the toad to croak up close at the springs of a reverb tank, blending in with the reverb signal.

I give you: the Ribbitverb.

The toad would likely have to be replaced more often than power tubes.
Different varieties of toads would be offered for voicing the effect.
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You are unlikely to run out of cane toads in tropical Australia.
 
Leedspool said:
Use a volume pedal in the FX loop. Works for me
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Yeah, I will change the speaker to a 25w greenback which folks on the Marshall forum reckon helps the amp to break up earlier. And, I'll try an od on the fx loop, set neutral, but use the volume to see if I can ramp up the gain sounds while controlling the volume.
 
I tried the DOD 2-knob compressor in the fx loop (as I don't have any transparent drives), compressor all the way down to zero then used the compressor volume knob to tame the volume - it worked well. It took say, 75db-80db nice sounds without it on to a sub 60db sound, which still sounded good, but was fine at apartment playing levels.

The fx loop on the Marshall is a bit noisy whatever I put in it, when the Origin's gain is above midday at the .5w setting (or even lower gain levels at the higher 5w and 20w levels)(generally, I am not particularly impressed by the fx loop; not sure why even the delay pedal in the loop is noisy...)(to be fair, this is probably just my P90 hum....), so I kept to the .5 setting, the low setting; sounded good. Threashed through a few powerchords without the wife complaining. Thanks for the suggestion, Leedspool.

Over the next couple of days I'll put the 25w 16ohm greenback in (this looks like a much bigger job than the simplicity of changing speakers in the DSL 5w combo I had) the Origin, so that should help: 1) improve the sound; 2) break up a bit earlier.

I'll probably pick up an attenuator too.
 
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Do these amps have something like the MSDI output on the Peavey 6505MH? I found this video of a guy in a little Japanese apartment playing what seems to be quite loudly but then it says it was all recorded using the MSDI into a computer

 
chilipeppermaniac said:
Good find and question, Dave
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I think all three of the Peavey MH amps have this feature. Not sure how well it works but it works okay in that video. My nephew's 6505+ 112 also has it but I've never tried it. We should probably try hooking it up as it would be a more controllable way of using the amp in his home environment

 
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Bandit 112--- no others need apply -- for HOME (and studio adn small venue) use they are the SHITE--
cleans -- dripping jazz tone and reverb
gain -- 70's grit to 80 hair band
Gain + button --- nearing 90's grunge----
+THRASH button= STUPID levels of gain---
ride the TRANSTUBE and presence to flavor----
ALL with clarity -- AND CHUG --- all for around 100.00

its the ultimate DO ALL cheap amp ---

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