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THIS THREAD...right here is why I love and wanted THIS SITE!

We are all talking, debating, throwing out opinions. We are liking and not liking some things that are said...BUT, we are all giving our point of view and no one is MAD!!!

...the thread does not need to be closed...no comments were remove to my knowledge...

I FVKIN" LOVE IT HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
No, their intention is for people to knowingly purchase a counterfeit in order to fool others into thinking they bought a real Gibson. They are 100% fake.

And guess what? I don't care if they ship these things in by the boatload as long as they are properly identified as what they are (under the moniker/trademark of the builder). I do care that they are using the Gibson logo and that here is no reason to do that other than to deceive - these are clearly not intended as "replicas" when you consider the materials, methods and appointments.

I don't know how you think you know the intentions of the makers - they've never told me. Here's an alternative. They are actually a musical charity who think that every guitarist should be able to have a Les Paul - even the poorest.

And your second paragraph flat out contradicts itself. Nothing more to say there.
 
And it's the reason I may stop looking in so often, it gives me the shi*s reading the same argument going round and round again. (n)

Strange reaction. Each thread has a title - if one of them doesn't interest you, don't open it. That's what I do.
 
Got a great idea ...
Start a thread with two columns,
Column A people who hate Chibsoms log your name.
Column B people who like them log your name.
Thereafter whenever this subject arises we can post once only with an A or a B and then walk away.
At the end of ten tears the moderators can total the A's and B's and that will be the definitive answer to the ongoing argument.
 
Strange reaction. Each thread has a title - if one of them doesn't interest you, don't open it. That's what I do.

Many of us are like the monkey ...
Knowing that a spider is under the rock but we just have to lift the rock to make sure. LOL
 
Got a great idea ...
Start a thread with two columns,
Column A people who hate Chibsoms log your name.
Column B people who like them log your name.
Thereafter whenever this subject arises we can post once only with an A or a B and then walk away.
At the end of ten tears the moderators can total the A's and B's and that will be the definitive answer to the ongoing argument.

Do you reckon that like or hate is the actual question?
 
... antipodean ... had to Google that one.

That's me ! I have to read more on their manifesto.
Thank you gasket.
 
I am all about "abstract expressionism" hell its my MAIN playing style----

as for the spider thems look like good eatin ;)
 
WOW---- yes--- you CERTAINLY would not mistake this for Gibson quality---- not even one that fell off the back of a truck!
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I don't know how you think you know the intentions of the makers - they've never told me.

If you can can offer some viable alternative motive, that does not involve willful ignorance of trademark law, then I am all ears, er..eyes. I still feel this is a safe inference. And I do hope for your sake that with such a cavalier attitude toward trademark infringement your professional life does not rely on branding or reputation in the marketplace.

Here's an alternative. They are actually a musical charity who think that every guitarist should be able to have a Les Paul - even the poorest.

Fine if they want to put a Les Paul style guitar in the hands of a player for an affordable price. Agile does this quite admirably without having to resort to forgery. Let them label the guitars appropriately and play on.

And your second paragraph flat out contradicts itself. Nothing more to say there.

Not in the least. I have maintained from the beginning of the discussion that my issue is with the use of the Gibson logo and open book headstock. If they want to call it something else and change the look of the headstock I could care less if they sell a million of the things. As they are now, masquerading as a Gibson, they are at the minimum unethical.

Don, I am all for healthy discourse and the community spirit of being able to agree to disagree, but these guitars are in fact illegal (despite the fact that you can order them and have them shipped to you, yes they are illegal in the United States (18 U.S. Code § 2320 - Trafficking in counterfeit goods or services) and Gibson does its best to shut down offenders as fast as they can but there are too many criminals out there wishing to make a buck off of their reputation and history) and diminish the actual Gibson brand. You and I may be able to spot a fake easily but there are many people who want a Les Paul that can't and if their first experience with a "Les Paul" is one of these things then Gibson may lose a potential client both up front and down the road.
 
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